Posted on 03/18/2006 10:39:55 PM PST by SmithL
"She had a chip on her shoulder that I left lying there."
Why exactly should she have had a chip on her shoulder when Jews have contributed so very much to the United States and people like you so very little?
"Translation please?"
We Jews have a very acute sense of smell, we really don't need a translation.
I can just imagine which side his family were supporting in World War II.
Here is a hint. Some of my grandfather's best friends are buried here. Can you "smell" where It is?
I don't understand. Was that an answer to my question?
Jewishness had a low profile in my southern town. The few Jews among us were very assimilated and tended to be high-achieving and respected members of the community, including the mayor. I am not aware that there was any particular Jewish presence in the school system, excepting the odd Jewish student here and there, several of whom were my friends.
Israel caught my young imagination -- and I am betting the imaginaitons of others -- when we learned about kibbutz life in Israel. It sounded like a permanent summer camp where children had escaped bourgeois parenting and were thriving in a socialist (didn't know then what that was exactly) utopia. I have now, to say the least, a radically different feeling about that message and some hostility over the fact that I received it in a way that made it sound so attractive. It was profoundly socialistic, but also, anti-family, anti-bourgeois, anti-American life.
A warm feeling toward Israel was then planted in my soul that I have not yet overcome. But, sometimes, I think that maybe old sentiment is overpowering reason. Israel was a socialist enterprise MUCH friendlier to the USSR than to the U.S., until political expediancy and the interests of dual-loyalty citizens bound it to the U.S.
Now, I feel bound to Israel by my abhorrence of their lunatic Arab enemies with their cult of death.
But, more broadly speaking, I wouldn't mind seeing the interest of Israel versus the interests of the U.S. being disintangled a bit.
We dissect the body politic in every possible way -- Northerners, Southerners, Westerners, workers, professionals, educated and not so educated, blue state and red state, women, men, gays, Christians, fundamentalists, Catholics, atheists, ~and~ Jews, to mention of few common categories.
We probe the interests of all these groups.
Jews are not exempt from this.
I am, to be blunt, at war with anybody, like you, who comes back at any critique of Jewish interests or politics, either directly, or as you have done, with cheap sarcasm, waving the tired, old anti-Semite thing. It doesn't wash with me, dude.
Could you please paraphrase and characterize the message I was replying to?
Do you actually believe that the Muslims would be peaceful but for Israel?
The USSR turned on Israel by 1950.
> If you are correct, then all lobbying should be banned. Blah, blah,blah, blah.... <
No, let's just be honest and call a spade and spade.
> Yup, better start banning us from certain careers and having anti-Jew quotas. Can's let us get uppity, now, can ya! <
A typical ploy designed to distract and cut off debate.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
It started in Germany when "the intellectuals" went after the Jews. This paper is an abomination and will backfire on Harvard, and the authors.
No. I believe Muslim extremists can find many excuses to spread their violence across the globe as they have done for centuries.
Since we are probing here...are you of the "Nuke 'em all" crowd? Women and children as well? All 1.5 billion of them?
No. I believe in aggressive containment.
1. Destabilizing radical Muslim regimes.
2. Ending the capability of Islamist regimes to significantly damage the west. This means preventing Iran from getting nukes, and trying to peacefully disarm Pakistan lest it have an Islamic revolution.
3. Supporting Western and non-Western nations fighting the expansion of Islam.
4. ending Muslim immigration to the west, expelling as many Muslims as possible.
Not totally disagreeing with your plan.
Just for arguments sake, this sounds like a type of global immunity to a germ.
How often will we need booster shots and who will be the bad guy to always administer them?
You must consider how the "patient" will react to this "treatment". Can it survive such an aggressive treatment?
Who will pay the cost of the treatment plan?
Keep in mind that a good physician will always take the least invasive type of approach. :)
> I am, to be blunt, at war with anybody, like you, who comes back at any critique of Jewish interests or politics, either directly, or as you have done, with cheap sarcasm, waving the tired, old anti-Semite thing. It doesn't wash with me, dude. <
Hear, hear!
If anything, I'm a Semitophile, but that doesn't mean I ignore the obvious.
As for the treatment plan, I suggest a tariff on foreign oil. Besides, we have no real alternative. We cant click our heals together and undo the last 1389 years of history.
Me too, although I have backed off my old habit of assuring people that "some of my best friends....," etc., etc. I just try to be honest and respectful, but I try not to back away from what I believe.
(I am more conscious of, and more interested in, Jews and Jewish politics than is usual for the goyim, an attitude that makes one immediately suspect to some. It started, for me, with an infatuation with the "New York intellectuals." Having put some thought into all of this, I naturally got over the tendency to think that all Jews were filled with nothing but the Anne Frank innocence and purity of spirit. Of course, no Jews are this sentimental about themselves but some of them expect that non-Jews will speak of them only in a reverent way.)
(You might be interested in the lengthy post that I just added to the 'Blame-the-Jews official endorses Gore' thread at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1597733/posts )
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