"Republican absolutists armed with lies about Rudy can very wellkeep him from the nomination and usher in the next Clinton era."
Posted on 03/18/2006 9:38:27 AM PST by UncleSamUSA
March 18, 2006 -- WASHINGTON - Rudy Giuliani will soon make a pilgrimage to the politically potent state of Iowa - the first stop in the presidential nominating process - fueling further speculation that he's eyeing a 2008 bid, The Post has learned.
The official reason for Giuliani's trip is to star at a May 1 "Get Motivated" leadership seminar that's already being advertised in The Des Moines Register.
But the trip to Iowa, site of the first presidential nominating caucus, has much bigger symbolic value for Giuliani. "It tells us, at a minimum, that he's looking to keep his options open - and, at a maximum, [that] he's looking to interview people to run his Iowa operation," said Republican strategist Rich Galen, who helped run Iowa for President Bush's dad.
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Good question.
You betcha!
Great tagline! :-)
..listen, with as much headway as the pro-life movement has made in recent years, especially in the SCOTUS, there is no way in ten lifetimes that the base will support anybody who is not committed to the life issue--it would be like surrendering with victory in sight...
Yep.
So at least you admit there is one. I think it will sort itself out rather quickly in the primaries He may play well in places like NH, but when it comes to the south, well that's another matter.
It also depends on who else is in the race. But the real fun is going to be the watching the dems eat their own, I just can't wait.
I'll concede that Romney would crush Hillary, it's hysterical on how many heretical folks here actually think she has a chance.
Even the dems would not endow her as 'Commander-in-Chief,' they may be stupid but most don't have a death wish.
"Republican absolutists armed with lies about Rudy can very wellSorry, but it too early in the week and too early on a Sunday morning for me to get your reference.
Am I Resputin like? Or is Giuliani? Or is Hillary?
I am calling it as I see it. You can disagree with my view.
I start with the proposition that in 2008, the country will be mad as hell at Republicans. I believe almost any Democrat- not just Hillary- who will be nominated has a very good chance of winning.
I believe that Democrat certainly can be defeated by only two Republicans who trump the Democrat advantage.
Of the two, I believe Giuliani would make a good- not perfect- President but maybe the perfect man to deal with foreign and terrorism issues which may dominate our lives that many of the criticisms of him from the Right are untrue and exaggerated.
He is in every respect as a leader head and shoulders above anyone with a realistic chance of winning the Republican nomination (Frist, Allen).
Rudy will win both the nomination and presidency if he runs.
While the Ultra Right will bitch and moan it will not be able to unify around a candidate strong enough to take Guiliani on.
Only McCain will be able to give him a run from what I can see today with the best alternative, Senator Allen, blowing himself up with dumb comments.
Rudy-Condi as a ticket would be unbeatable. If Condi refuses to run perhaps Allen would be a good VP.
I had been in the Allen camp but his inexperience has lowered his viability and there is no one else who is a serious candidate.
If you cannot see that Rudy is head and shoulders over any RAT candidate then you allow ideology to trump reason. The major issue is maintaining the fight against the terrorists and EVERY Republican will do that and must be supported while NO RAT will do it and thus must be defeated.
Many crackpots will via for your attention. They will get about 2% of the vote and disappear as quickly as the morning dew.
The South loves Rudy. And the mafia IS and international terror organization. One much older than al Queda for that matter.
And that run will be accompanied by the wails here from the Fringe about the other 99% of the GOP who are "RINOS" should provide great amusement as the level of frustration grows.
The ports uproar had nothing to do with any realities but was merely a typical example of Treason Media produced LIES swamping the GOP. This suicidal display OF COURSE was led by the worst of the RATS and you clowns bought it hook, line and sinker.
Pro Life Republicans are not going to put their eggs in a basket which has no chance. What candidate is going to beat Guiliani or McCain (who is firmly PL) for that matter?
Since three or four more acceptably Right will run and chop up each other defeating these guys will be almost impossible. Look at the current Illinois GOP primary where the far right candidate has no chance and will not withdraw and support the only guy with a chance to defeat the RAT. This will be exactly what happens in the primaries in 08. Though any GOP candidate will beat Hillary.
by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
October 26, 2004
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- The results of a new Gallup survey show that pro-life voters are more focused on electing pro-life candidates than "pro-choice" voters are on backing candidates who support abortion. They survey shows the abortion issue favors President Bush and Gallup says it could decide the election.
According to the poll, 19% of likely voters say the abortion issue directs which candidates they are willing to support.
According to the new poll, sponsored by CNN and USA Today, self-identified pro-life voters are nearly three times more likely to describe themselves as single issue voters than those who say they are "pro-choice" on abortion.
Of the 19% who say abortion is important to them, thirty percent of pro-life voters will only vote for a candidate whose views match their own while only 11 percent of pro-abortion voters will only support pro-abortion candidates.
On the other hand, 38 percent of pro-abortion voters say abortion is not a major issue in determining their vote while only 22 percent of pro-life voters say abortion doesn't matter.
Source: The Gallup Organization
"[P]ro-life voters may have the greater impact at the polls. The reason lies in their level of intensity," says Lydia Saad, Senior Gallup Poll Editor.
That intensity is reflected in the impact pro-life voters have on the views of likely voters overall.
"The net result is that 13% of all likely voters say they are pro-life and will only vote for a candidate who shares their views on abortion," Saad explained. By contrast, only 6 percent of all likely voters say they back abortion and will only vote for candidates who will keep abortion legal.
That 7 percent advantage could have a major impact on the presidential race where pro-life President George W. Bush battles pro-abortion candidate John Kerry.
In fact, 90% of those pro-life single issue voters plan to back the president next week.
"Abortion, though not the most talked-about subject this presidential election, may be an important stealth issue that could impact the outcome in key states, or even nationally," Saad says.
According to the Gallup poll, 23 percent of Bush's voters are single issue pro-life voters whereas only 13 percent of Kerry's backers are single issue voters in favor of abortion. Take those pro-life votes away and Saad said Bush's current lead overall among likely voters would not only be erased, he would be losing to Kerry in the polls.
Despite detractors who say Bush's pro-life stance is a drag on his re-election chances, the poll confirms he would lose by a large margin had he abandoned the pro-life perspective.
"Given the current state of abortion attitudes, Bush, in particular, has good reason to hold firm to his pro-life position and to communicate his views to the pro-life voters who stand ready to give him a second term," Saad explains.
This isn't the first time the Gallup poll has shown the abortion issue being advantageous to pro-life candidates.
"Gallup found a similar pattern in 2000, and the national exit polling in every presidential election since 1984 has shown a net advantage to the pro-life side over the pro-choice side, based on the percentage of single-issue abortion voters in the electorate," Saad said.
The survey is based on interviews with 1,013 adults from October 14-16, 2004. The margin of error in the Gallup poll is 3 percent. The likely voter results are subject to a 4 percent margin of error.
Giuliani can't win. Pragmatically, it is a complete waste of time to consider him a contender.
Glad to know you don't accept the propaganda that "only" Giuliani can do it.
Fact is, Hillary is the weakest candidate the Democrats could offer.
Which issue mattered most in deciding how you voted for president?
KERRY BUSH
Moral Values (22%) 18% 80%
Economy/Jobs (20%) 80% 18%
Terrorism (19%) 14% 86%
Iraq (15%) 73% 26%
Health Care (8%) 77% 23%
Taxes (5%) 43% 57%
Education (4%) 73% 26%
See #4.
That and related issues will be #1 in 2008.
As mayor of NYC Rudy had to have made some concessions in his philosophy in order to win. I'll believe if Rudy runs he'll move more to the right and say that abortion and gay rights are states' issues. He knows he cannot win without the conservative base. I'm not a huge fan of him but he's very good at articulating positions so succinctly that even die-hard libs will nod their heads vigorously. Voting for him over Hillary is a no-brainer.
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