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Israel's colonisation of Palestine blocking peace, says Jimmy Carter
Guardian ^ | March 18, 2006 | Chris McGreal

Posted on 03/17/2006 5:43:52 PM PST by ncountylee

The former US president Jimmy Carter has described Israel's "colonisation of Palestine" through expanding Jewish settlements as the single greatest obstacle to a resolution of the conflict. Mr Carter, 81, who negotiated the 1978 Camp David peace accord between Israel and Egypt, wrote in the Tel Aviv newspaper Haaretz yesterday that Israel's actions doom any Palestinian state to a "dismal" future and will perpetuate violence across the Middle East. "The pre-eminent obstacle to peace is Israel's colonisation of Palestine," he wrote. "Israel's occupation of Palestine has obstructed a comprehensive peace agreement in the Holy Land, regardless of whether Palestinians had no formalised government, one headed by Yasser Arafat or Mahmoud Abbas, or with Abbas as president and Hamas controlling the parliament and cabinet."

Mr Carter also questioned Israel's commitment to the US-led "road map" peace process. "Israel has officially rejected its basic premises with patently unacceptable caveats and prerequisites," he said.

He said Israel was insincere at peace negotiations during the 1990s when it offered to withdraw only a small proportion of the 225,000 settlers living in the West Bank. "Their best official offer to the Palestinians was to withdraw 20% of them, leaving 180,000 [Israelis] in 209 settlements, covering about 5% of the occupied land," he said.

"The 5% figure is grossly misleading, with surrounding areas taken or earmarked for expansion, roadways joining settlements with each other and to Jerusalem, and wide arterial swaths providing water, sewage, electricity and communications. This intricate honeycomb divides the entire West Bank into multiple fragments, often uninhabitable or even unreachable."

This week the acting Israeli prime minister, Ehud Olmert, said that if he wins this month's general election, as expected, he will annex the main settlement blocks that are home to about 80% of settlers.|

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: enemywithin; jimmycarter; watersedge; worstpresidentever
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To: Salem

Being a submariner myself, I have a theory who Jimmy Carter is so whacked out. Let me share it.

I firmly believe that snorkel mast head valve on either Pomfret or K-1 shut one to many times and the diesels drew such a horrendous vacuum that any brains he had were sucked out of his nostrils.






61 posted on 03/18/2006 6:05:25 AM PST by judicial meanz (Progressive liberals and Stalinists; tell me exactly where they are different in their beliefs?)
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To: Joan Kerrey
Israel attacked what they thought was an enemy ship.

Spoken like a Johnson-era Democrat. Israel also honored Motor Torpedo Boat 203 which fired the deadly torpedo at the Liberty. The Israelis murdered American servicemen. High above the attack, an EC-121 ferret listened to the Israelis talking on the radio net about the American flags flying on the ship. The Israelis knew who they were killing.

62 posted on 03/18/2006 7:25:16 AM PST by Simo Hayha (An education is incomplete without instruction in the use of arms to defend against harm.)
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To: judicial meanz
From The Mother Tongue: English and How It Got That Way, by Bill Bryson, William Morrow and Company, Inc, New York:
In 1977, President Carter, on a trip to Poland, wanted to tell the people, "I wish to learn your opinions and understand you desires for the future," but his interpreter made it come out as "I desire the Poles carnally." The interpreter also had the president telling the Poles that he had "abandoned" the United States that day, instead of leaving it. After a couple of hours of such gaffes, the president wisely abandoned the interpreter.

Based on his performance since leaving office, I'd hazard the interpreter had it right.

63 posted on 03/18/2006 1:19:03 PM PST by Simo Hayha ("A man, a plan, a canal, Panama!" a famous palindrome from the same book.)
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To: anotherview

You were saying something about the "dustbin of history"? Here is somebody who agrees with you.


64 posted on 03/18/2006 4:45:51 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 83-87)
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; A Jovial Cad; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; adam_az; af_vet_rr; agrace; ahayes; ...
FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

65 posted on 03/18/2006 4:46:37 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 88-89)
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To: Alouette

Jimmy Carter is a shmuck. Don't even think about putting me in his company.


67 posted on 03/18/2006 5:03:16 PM PST by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: anotherview
Don't even think about putting me in his company.

You yourself made the statement placing those who disagree with you "in the dustbin of history"

Until you distance yourself from that despicable and arrogant statement, I'm putting YOU in YOUR OWN company.

68 posted on 03/18/2006 5:09:13 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 88-89)
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To: Alouette
Don't even think about putting me in his company.

C'est pas MOI qui se mettre à son compagne.

DUSTBIN OF HISTORY

S'il vous plait.

69 posted on 03/18/2006 5:29:36 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 88-89)
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To: Hannah Senesh
To believe that Carter has a point though is nothing short of barmy.

The people of the land were not blowing themselves and Israelis up in 1967 and the following years. Their hostility has increased. I submit that this was in response to Israeli gov't policy to create "new facts on the ground" by colonizing the West Bank, including subsidizing development by Israelis who otherwise were not ideologically motivated to "re-establish" "Judea and Samaria".
70 posted on 03/18/2006 5:46:52 PM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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To: ncountylee

Has Jimmy Carter ever been right in his life about anything? While he was president, I thought he was just stupid. But having watched him since, it's hard not to conclude that it's some sort of deep malice of the worst kind.

Was there ever a dictator, a terrorist, or a Communist, whom he didn't love?


71 posted on 03/18/2006 5:50:42 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: William Creel
What perplexes me is that the Palestinians and the Jewish people don't get along, even though they share a background, and the same genes.

It is like the era described in "Judges", where tribe warred on tribe. If the tribe of Dan can be reclaimed from black Ethiopian pariahs, shouldn't we seek Ephraim, Menasseh, and Benjamin's descendants in the people whom the Lord has placed in the way of new Zion?
72 posted on 03/18/2006 5:56:44 PM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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To: kenavi

The era you mention is before Mad Moe the pedophile prophet.


73 posted on 03/18/2006 5:58:38 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee
The era you mention is before Mad Moe the pedophile prophet.

Even so, the Tribes committed horrendous atrocities, and that was AFTER the Lord revealed Himself and his Law to ALL their ancestors at Mt. Sinai.

So let's not despair of the Lord's ability to bring enlightenment and revelation to today's benighted ones of HIS children.
74 posted on 03/18/2006 6:24:56 PM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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To: ncountylee

Israel is causing Islamic Jihad, like a beautiful women beauty causes rape. Carter is using burka logic.

Israel has brought the only peace and freedom to this area in the last millenium. My bet is if the Arabs would immigrate to Arabia there would be peace.

Lets give peace a chance.


75 posted on 03/18/2006 11:05:41 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: kenavi
He's got a point

You, Hilter and the Sand-Nazi's all agree. Make you all warm inside?

76 posted on 03/18/2006 11:10:18 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Salem

You have to remember that it is the liberals that will be killing millions in the name of Utopia for the anti-christ. Gotta get rid of all the "others" to make room on this tiny planet ya know. Some build sand castles, some stomp them.


77 posted on 03/18/2006 11:12:54 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Everytime you figure he could not say anything more stupid, he finds a way to top himself

Obviously most people's first thought when reading that. Can Carter truly be that much of a moron? Apparently so. It's enough of an embarrassment that he was our president. Now we have to have "Carter II."

78 posted on 03/18/2006 11:13:44 PM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Simo Hayha
Really?
Israel released the radio communications, which show confusion.

No one has explained why ISrael would risk war with the US, when it was fighting for its survival against the Soviet-backed Arabs.
79 posted on 03/19/2006 3:44:04 AM PST by rmlew (Sedition and Treason are both crimes, not free speech.)
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To: kenavi

Reread the Book of Joshua. Notice what God commanded.


80 posted on 03/19/2006 3:45:29 AM PST by rmlew (Sedition and Treason are both crimes, not free speech.)
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