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To: Gandalf_The_Gray; Norman Bates
Take a tall glass and fill it with ice cubes. Then fill to the rim with water. Sit back and wait, If you are patient you may observe that the water level in the glass drops as the ice melts. This is true because ice is less dense than liquid water .... So it stands to reason that all of the ice floating in the Arctic ocean is actually raising the ocean's level, if it melts the ocean's level would drop.

Assuming that the ice is floating at the beginning of the experiment, your analysis is incorrect: The water level will not change.

By Archimedes' Principle, a floating object displaces an amount of water equal in weight to itself. When ice melts, it becomes water. Therefore, the water into which the ice melts will exactly occupy the volume displaced by the unmelted ice.

(In practice, if we speak of ice floating on the sea, we should note that the melting ice will cause a slight reduction of the concentration of dissolved salts, and thus cause a small increase in total sea volume. But the effect in question would, as a practical matter, be insignificant).

147 posted on 03/17/2006 2:06:55 PM PST by derlauerer ("The truth of a proposition has nothing to do with its credibility. And vice-versa." - RAH)
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To: derlauerer
Assuming that the ice is floating at the beginning of the experiment, your analysis is incorrect: The water level will not change.

I stand corrected, you are right. The only way to get a result in which the water level drops is to start with a container completely filled with ice. A trivial case and not at all what we were talking about. In any event, the level does not rise from the melting of floating ice.

Thanks for the correction, I posted in haste with out thinking it through.

Regards,
GtG

162 posted on 03/18/2006 12:40:01 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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