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When Pressed, DoD Says It Could Build F-35 Without UK
Morningstar/DJ ^ | 03/15/06 | Rebecca Christie

Posted on 03/16/2006 8:21:12 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
I have a funny idea the software is not being released as source for a reason. Something along the lines of the Soviets stealing pipeline control software during Reagan, and then mysteriously Ruskie pipelines going boom.

We also put "backdoor" hacks in com hardware we sold to Poland in the 80's, with the idea that if the need arose, we could disable a big chunk of the Warsaw Pacts communitcations across Poland to Germany.
21 posted on 03/17/2006 5:13:02 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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re :We also put "backdoor" hacks in com hardware we sold to Poland in the 80's, with the idea that if the need arose, we could disable a big chunk of the Warsaw Pacts communitcations across Poland to Germany.

LOL nice to see that Great Britain could be foreseen as a possible future threat to America within the lifetime of this Aircraft.

22 posted on 03/17/2006 5:18:56 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: tonycavanagh

I think Eurabia is more of a concern. Hard to argue with the demographic trends.


23 posted on 03/17/2006 6:16:37 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: grcuster
"Raptors to foreigners?"

We can attribute this mainly to greedy and/or frightened CEO's whose dedication to profit at all costs to preserve their well-paid positions is stronger than their American Patriotic impulse, and self-preservation instinct.

"Who moved my cheese?", they ask. "Why, it's right over in yonder mousetrap.", say our enemies. "By-all-means, help yourselves!"

This country needs to 'wise-up' in a hurry.

24 posted on 03/17/2006 6:26:11 AM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
re :I think Eurabia is more of a concern. Hard to argue with the demographic trends.

LOL they are going to outbreed us argument.

When the Blacks from the West Indies first came to this country, Britain, we were told we would be swamped as they were all young and had big families while we have small families.

The fact was we were not as they got older they wanted what white children wanted and it wasn't a big family.

Now forgetting for a minute that the total Muslim population of Britain is 1.6 million while the total population is: 58.8 million meaning in percentage terms of (2.8%) .

Lets have a look at these breeding foot soldiers of Allah.

All the Muslims I have met in there teens and 20s are more interested in XBoxes ( I think its a computer game), Fast cars and all the other materialistic trappings of the West.

Rather than lie down and be good little Muslims and out breed the Christians.

Breeding lots of children to work on your farms works in North Africa, the Middle East and Pakistan/India and South East Asia where the family unit is strong and you have the extended family to help with raising the children and to make sure you do your duty and become a baby producing factory.

But in the West as I said apart from claiming to be Islamic because it means they can sulk go on TV and riot and cry crocodile tears over there brothers in other countries who are persecuted.

But the other things like giving up the bling(heavy Gold Chains) and settling down they are not interested in. They would rather commit crime sell drugs and end up in jail.

Not all of them but a good percentage do.

In France they have a tendency to jail Muslims and for longer than there white counterparts.

LOL While they may be getting some horizontal action, I doubt they will breed any children from it, unless a miracle happens.

Also you need Muslim women to breed with to produce all these little blessed foot soldiers of Allah, and while we have let rather a lot of Muslim men in, something we are now halting we are not letting there women in.

As an aside the West has new large scale immigration from Central and Eastern Europe who are also young and predominately male, mainly Slavic.

While I am married I am looking forward to seeing the Slavic women come over to join there male counterparts, always liked looking at pretty women.

25 posted on 03/17/2006 6:45:44 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Let complaining Norway and Islamofascist Turkey out of the F-35 project too. We don't need them, not at all. Let Poland and Japan in instead.


26 posted on 03/17/2006 7:52:24 AM PST by Wiz
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It is not perfect stealth, but has incorporated RCS reducing tech, stuff you do not want in China's hands.

No doubt. Don't sell any to Israel.

27 posted on 03/17/2006 8:28:34 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: tonycavanagh

if it can be remotely switched off would you want the source code freely floating around cyberspace? I wouldn't, maybe you would since you have only invested a couple billion, but we have spend far more and have a lot more to lose.


28 posted on 03/17/2006 8:35:40 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Poundstone

I'm not so sure, one of the 3 new CV's will be operating the Rafale anyway, and it is a twin engine aircraft. Thats been quite important in naval aviation for some time.

As for the mission requirements, i've not seen them publically quoted, if you have, perhaps you have a link.


29 posted on 03/17/2006 3:02:18 PM PST by Axlrose
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To: Axlrose

My source for the Royal Navy mission requirements comes from an MOD official who is intimately involved with the RN aircraft carrier program. He's not happy about the source code issue, but he told me the UK simply doesn't have any leverage -- the RN must have the F-35 because the Rafale can't fulwill several important mission requirements: high-tech stealth, range, and weapons load.

That being said, ministers and politicians in the UK are making a big to-do about the Rafale out of a desire to creat some leverage. But as my source indicates, there simply is no leverage -- and the US understands that.


30 posted on 03/17/2006 6:48:25 PM PST by Poundstone
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