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To: Southack
My assertion must be on target, as you are reduced to claiming that Gravity simply didn't exist during the Inflationary Era.

I never claimed that. This is a blatant lie.

In fact, you deny that the Four Fundamental Forces existed...

I never denied that they existed. This is a blatant lie. I stated that they were not differentiated.

You are also reduced to claiming that matter somehow cooled in a way that we've never seen in the lab or in the field...

This is a blatant lie. I never claimed that. What I did was cut to the chase and get to the point that you were actually hoping to make. We have seen energy loss due to particle transformation in any number of experiments. I just declined to take advantage of your utter ignorance when I knew that your real issue was the thermal state problem.

660 posted on 03/20/2006 6:47:22 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv; RadioAstronomer
The problem is our attempts to explain things in English that are best explained by the mathematics. When the left side of the equation is much bigger than the right side, or when taking the limit pushes some terms to zero, it's readily apparent which effects should (or shouldn't) be noted at which distances. When everything is bandied about in plain English, it devolves into an argument over what the definition of "is" is.

I should just leave. And yet, I can't tear myself away.



665 posted on 03/20/2006 7:03:01 AM PST by beezdotcom
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To: AntiGuv
Do we have any examples in the lab of matter cooling due to particle transformations rather than through heat transfer? - Southack
 

To cut directly to what you're asking: Not to my knowledge. We have not recreated and observed the conditions of the Planck Era. Our projection of circumstances back before the differentiation of the Grand Unified Field is based on extrapolation from quantum mechanics
648 posted on 03/20/2006 8:06:56 AM CST by AntiGuv (™)

You are also reduced to claiming that matter somehow cooled in a way that we've never seen in the lab or in the field... - Southack

This is a blatant lie. I never claimed that. What I did was cut to the chase and get to the point that you were actually hoping to make. We have seen energy loss due to particle transformation in any number of experiments. I just declined to take advantage of your utter ignorance when I knew that your real issue was the thermal state problem.  - AntiGuv


674 posted on 03/20/2006 7:29:23 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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