Posted on 03/15/2006 5:16:58 PM PST by Spiff
McCain CHALLENGES PETER GADIEL TO DEBATE HIM IN ARIZONA . GADIEL ACCEPTS CHALLENGE
ENCOUNTER WITH JOHN McCAIN:
At the end of a week of lobbying, we accidentally met Sen. John McCain just outside the Russell Senate Office Building . Joan, Bruce and I approached him identified ourselves as 9/11 family members. We told him we opposed his amnesty bill and of our promise to hold accountable members of Congress who vote for it for the acts of violence that result. The following conversation resulted:
McCain looked at Joan and said : “You're kidding, aren't you?”
Joan Molinaro : “No, we're not kidding.”
At this, McCain started screaming and pointed his finger in our faces: “ After all I've done for you people! I welcome you to come to my state. I'll debate the issue with you. The people of Arizona trust me…I got 77% of the vote last year. Who do you think they'll believe?”
Peter Gadiel : “ Yeah sure. You won that race by getting 85 % of your money from out of state.”
McCain : “It's people like you who make my job so hard. I got 77% of the vote…."
Gadiel: "Oh sure, but you needed What kind of confidence is that?"
By this time, Joan and Peter were turning their backs to McCain, and he started to come after them. But Bruce saw a guard from the Russell Building come out, take McCain by the arm and pull him inside the building.
9/11 FSA accepts Senator McCain's challenge to debate him on the issue of illegal immigration.
9/11 FSA members Joan Molinaro, Bruce De Cell, Grace Godshalk and Peter Gadiel lobbied the Senate during the week of February 27 to March 3. Part of the time we were accompanied by Bill Buchanan, Bob Shoemaker, Helen Pfalsgraf and Rick Rio of Virginia 's very effective immigration reform group, ANCIR. Our purpose was to oppose bills that would reward illegal aliens by granting them amnesty and the right to become citizens of the United States.
The worst amnesty bills are S. 1033 sponsored by Sens. McCain and Kennedy, and the as yet unnumbered bill sponsored by Sen. Arlen Specter.
We had a lengthy appointment with one Senator and met briefly with a second. In addition, we had meetings with staff members representing twelve other Senators.
We were able to attend a portion of the Senate Judiciary Committee's discussion of illegal immigration in the “markup” session of Thursday March 2. During this meeting Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) disgraced himself by showing contempt for of all those who have been killed or injured by illegal aliens. Graham said he plays golf, that most of the courses he plays on use illegal alien labor, and that he, like many other Americans is happy to benefit from that cheap labor. Joan, Bruce and I were appalled that a United States Senator would admit that he thinks lower greens fees are more important than the lives of those he claims to represent. During the hearing, Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis) issued a press release endorsing the McCain-Kennedy amnesty.
The 9/11 FSA position is this: if an amnesty passes, among the 11,000,000 to 20,000,000 recipients of amnesty there will inevitably be violent felons and terrorists. (For example, one of the participants in the 1993 WTC bombing had received amnesty in 1986. Other recipients of the ‘86 amnesty have been involved in crimes such as the killings outside CIA headquarters.) We told the staffs of Feingold, Graham and other amnesty supporters that if an amnesty bill is passed, when violent criminal or terrorist acts are committed by those receiving amnesty, 9/11 FSA will make sure that the people in their states know that Graham, Feingold, et al, made those crimes possible by allowing the perpetrators to stay in the USA.
This blunt approach has been made necessary by the failure of many members of the Senate to overcome their reliance on contributions made by the members of the US Chamber of Commerce, National Association of Manufacturers and other employers of illegals; their failure to ignore the expensive lobbying campaigns of LaRaza, the ACLU, the United Methodist Church, George Soros, and so on.
Since the 9/11 attacks, 9/11 FSA has several times asked for meetings with representatives of the Bush Administration. These requests were ignored. Then, in December we were called by a Bush official who asked us to meet with her and did so in January. This was very useful and we were invited to a second meeting, this time with a person holding a senior position in the Administration. This occurred immediately after our outdoor visit with Sen. McCain, and was much friendlier.
We have no delusions that 9/11 FSA is now a Washington powerhouse, but we think that we have achieved a minor degree of influence. The explosive response of McCain and the sudden interest on the part of Administration officials may be indications of our voice being heard and listened to by elected officials and policy makers.
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Yes. I saw it on the Minuteman site.
That's true. They've been given a free pass and considerable access to the media because of their loss. But, as noted above, their loss did not bestow some gift of advanced knowledge upon them. Having said that, McCain appears to be on the verge of a spittle flying rage.
I think it's satirizing of McCain-Feingold's free speech elimination.
McKennedy....no Amnesty for Illegals for you...
Your time is done.
Keep it up, demand accountability for his foibles. Queeg will snap so publicly someday that there is no way he will be President, much less nominated.
He is a mean spirited self indulgent promoter of himself, for himself, by himself with backing from those he can return favors to. 100% politician!!!!
Adjacent to the first panel, in small print.
Sideways.
Graham said he plays golf, that most of the courses he plays on use illegal alien labor, and that he, like many other Americans is happy to benefit from that cheap labor.
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A U.S. Senator publicly admits he knows of multiple federal crimes currently being committed and that he benefits from those federal crimes. Where is the Senate leadership? Why would they allow someone who admits he benefits from multiple federal crimes to retain his seat?
Graham should be brought up on ethics charges tomorrow.
It would be fun to get McCain and Dean together for a stereo scream session.
And some people want to see him elected President?
Anyone who spent years isolated in a North Vietnamese prison camp can be expected to have profound and significent mental and emotional problems. Such men deserve our respect and our admiration and our support. They do not deserve to be elected to the highest positions of power and responsibility in our nation.
Electing Clinton, however, broke all the rules. Here was a man who was resonably tied to the USSR secret service, a foreigh sympathizer with no legitimate credentials for the office of president. Gov of Arkansas is a demerit, not a plus.
I like the comparison of McCain and Dean, right on point, lunatics from both sides of the aisle.
Look out! He's gonna pop!
It won't be you!
"after all the crimes, murders, robbery, rapes, auto accidents committed by these illegals and documented ad nauseum"
"Looks like we got a live one here, Lewis"--Ned Beatty's character to Burt Reynolds in Deliverance.
You are right. I forgot. Only illegals commit crimes. But I didn't know they did it in an ad museum.
Seriously, I have one rather simple question. And please think about it closely. If we shipped all the illegals out of the country tomorrow, what would happen to american manufacturing and the agriculture sector? Okay, now if that can't work, what do you propose to suggest? Remember, this is an arena for exchanging ideas. Would it bother you to have associated domestic products increase 40-60%? Do you integrate them into a worker program? Do you line them all up in Tijuana on the mexican side and say take a number?
Lets be clear where I stand. I don't have a problem with a southern wall. I don't have a problem with working with existing industry to come up with a solution. And I do realize that something is better than what we have. However, I do think the there is a difference in the illegals that come in. And frankly, the terrorists gamed the system. They didn't swim a river.
MSM has probably interviewed the guard and has a hit piece awaiting the beast's orders.
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I hope they do. I also hope that when the vetrans "Swift Boat" him it doesn't take the MSM as long to pick up the story.
May as well get used to it folks, amnesty for illegals is on the way. Our congress is bought and paid for.
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