Posted on 03/15/2006 5:16:58 PM PST by Spiff
McCain CHALLENGES PETER GADIEL TO DEBATE HIM IN ARIZONA . GADIEL ACCEPTS CHALLENGE
ENCOUNTER WITH JOHN McCAIN:
At the end of a week of lobbying, we accidentally met Sen. John McCain just outside the Russell Senate Office Building . Joan, Bruce and I approached him identified ourselves as 9/11 family members. We told him we opposed his amnesty bill and of our promise to hold accountable members of Congress who vote for it for the acts of violence that result. The following conversation resulted:
McCain looked at Joan and said : You're kidding, aren't you?
Joan Molinaro : No, we're not kidding.
At this, McCain started screaming and pointed his finger in our faces: After all I've done for you people! I welcome you to come to my state. I'll debate the issue with you. The people of Arizona trust me I got 77% of the vote last year. Who do you think they'll believe?
Peter Gadiel : Yeah sure. You won that race by getting 85 % of your money from out of state.
McCain : It's people like you who make my job so hard. I got 77% of the vote ."
Gadiel: "Oh sure, but you needed What kind of confidence is that?"
By this time, Joan and Peter were turning their backs to McCain, and he started to come after them. But Bruce saw a guard from the Russell Building come out, take McCain by the arm and pull him inside the building.
9/11 FSA accepts Senator McCain's challenge to debate him on the issue of illegal immigration.
9/11 FSA members Joan Molinaro, Bruce De Cell, Grace Godshalk and Peter Gadiel lobbied the Senate during the week of February 27 to March 3. Part of the time we were accompanied by Bill Buchanan, Bob Shoemaker, Helen Pfalsgraf and Rick Rio of Virginia 's very effective immigration reform group, ANCIR. Our purpose was to oppose bills that would reward illegal aliens by granting them amnesty and the right to become citizens of the United States.
The worst amnesty bills are S. 1033 sponsored by Sens. McCain and Kennedy, and the as yet unnumbered bill sponsored by Sen. Arlen Specter.
We had a lengthy appointment with one Senator and met briefly with a second. In addition, we had meetings with staff members representing twelve other Senators.
We were able to attend a portion of the Senate Judiciary Committee's discussion of illegal immigration in the markup session of Thursday March 2. During this meeting Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) disgraced himself by showing contempt for of all those who have been killed or injured by illegal aliens. Graham said he plays golf, that most of the courses he plays on use illegal alien labor, and that he, like many other Americans is happy to benefit from that cheap labor. Joan, Bruce and I were appalled that a United States Senator would admit that he thinks lower greens fees are more important than the lives of those he claims to represent. During the hearing, Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis) issued a press release endorsing the McCain-Kennedy amnesty.
The 9/11 FSA position is this: if an amnesty passes, among the 11,000,000 to 20,000,000 recipients of amnesty there will inevitably be violent felons and terrorists. (For example, one of the participants in the 1993 WTC bombing had received amnesty in 1986. Other recipients of the 86 amnesty have been involved in crimes such as the killings outside CIA headquarters.) We told the staffs of Feingold, Graham and other amnesty supporters that if an amnesty bill is passed, when violent criminal or terrorist acts are committed by those receiving amnesty, 9/11 FSA will make sure that the people in their states know that Graham, Feingold, et al, made those crimes possible by allowing the perpetrators to stay in the USA.
This blunt approach has been made necessary by the failure of many members of the Senate to overcome their reliance on contributions made by the members of the US Chamber of Commerce, National Association of Manufacturers and other employers of illegals; their failure to ignore the expensive lobbying campaigns of LaRaza, the ACLU, the United Methodist Church, George Soros, and so on.
Since the 9/11 attacks, 9/11 FSA has several times asked for meetings with representatives of the Bush Administration. These requests were ignored. Then, in December we were called by a Bush official who asked us to meet with her and did so in January. This was very useful and we were invited to a second meeting, this time with a person holding a senior position in the Administration. This occurred immediately after our outdoor visit with Sen. McCain, and was much friendlier.
We have no delusions that 9/11 FSA is now a Washington powerhouse, but we think that we have achieved a minor degree of influence. The explosive response of McCain and the sudden interest on the part of Administration officials may be indications of our voice being heard and listened to by elected officials and policy makers.
I wouldn't piss on his face if it was on fire!
In 1996, McCain succeeded in amendingand guttingthe Missing Service Personnel Act, removing all its enforcement teeth. The original act contained criminal penalties for anyone, such as a government official, civilian or military, who destroys or covers up or withholds from P.O.W. families any information about a missing soldier. McCain just erased this part of the law.
Are you waiting for the obsolete media to report it?
No, but the person reporting this is one of the subjects.
His view is obviously subjective.
The MSM is too, but most of the time they are not the subject.
correction.........John Glenn a democrat also survived the Keating mess.
Yeah, I'm sick of the 911 families. They're nothing but a lobbying group.
I said long ago I would not want his finger near the button.
The Metamucil isn't working!
"POW's and MIA's?? Stop wastin' my time. Fuggetaboudit!"
Wasn't it McLame aided and abetted by his real good buddy the Junior Senator from Massachusetts?
Yes
Is it just me or is John McCain the Howard Dean of the Republican party?
McCain and John Glenn got off because Cranston took a dive. He had cancer and was dieing, so he took the heat, retired, but kept his pension and health care.
William J. Murray had it right about the illegals:
"Big businesses such as Microsoft or General Electric may not hire illegals, but the mere presence of illegals holds down the entire wage scale of all Americans and it is for that reason big business backs the presence of illegals in the United States."
Living up to his name, John "insane" McCain.
I don't know how they do it, but one of the main purposes of the guest worker program is to establish positive ID. One way is biometrics.
I must be an idiot. I just do not understand that headline.
"Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with... geometric logic... that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist, and I'd have produced that key if they hadn't of pulled the Caine out of action."
LOL, that's funny and he also has an 'aura' about him......
I can get rid of that but it's kind of neat!
"Something just isn't right with that boy...must've been tackled upside the head one too many times!"
Another Brokeback moment!
As for making them leave, all we have to do is enforce the law against the employers, once we start jailing them for hiring ILLEGALS they will quit and the ILLEGALS will leave of their own volition.
Your little statement about supporting a wall is BS too. If you supported it you wouldn't be saying the same tired of arguments about illegals doing the jobs americans won't do, and that they keep prices down.
The truth is, ILLEGALS cost us far more in tax monies than they ever contribute, and this is before we factor in the crimes some of them commit. How many ILLEGALS that have come in since 9/11 are terrorists? Can you answer that? Nope, you can't, and neither can I, but I will bet the farm that quite a few have come in, not to mention the wonderful little group known as MS-13.
I could go on and on, listing crimes committed by ILLEGALS, just recently, but I know I would be wasting my time with you, you are convinced ILLEGALS are all harmless, wonderful people who just happened to break the law getting here, break it further by working under the table and driving without a license and when they do have a license it is obtained ILLEGALLY, and this doesn't cover the deaths that drunk driving ILLEGALS cause on our highways and the robberies and sexual assaults and murders they commit every year.
No, they are not the only ones committing crimes but they would NOT be committing them here if they were in the country they are legal residents of instead of being ILLEGALLY allowed in the US.
Can you say respect for our laws?
"Your little statement about supporting a wall is BS too."
Actually, its not.
"If you supported it you wouldn't be saying the same tired of arguments about illegals doing the jobs americans won't do"
I honestly cannot remember ever writing this. But you seem to know me better than myself.
But that's okay. Obviously, you are real emotional about this, so that is where we leave it. Buenos Noches.
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