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RFID tags vulnerable to viruses, study says
Computerworld ^ | 03/15/2006 | Jeremy Kirk

Posted on 03/15/2006 9:23:38 AM PST by Ramius

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Swell. Just swell. But finding the vulnerability is the first step. Should be ways to deal with it, I'd think.
1 posted on 03/15/2006 9:23:41 AM PST by Ramius
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2 posted on 03/15/2006 9:29:48 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Ramius
Should be ways to deal with it, I'd think.

I sure hope not. The sooner RFID gets exposed for the huge threat it is, the better. I think this is excellent news.

3 posted on 03/15/2006 9:30:07 AM PST by AntiGuv
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Uh, yeah... OK. And bar codes. Don't forget bar codes. :-)


4 posted on 03/15/2006 9:31:42 AM PST by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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To: Ramius

You cannot hack a bar code.


5 posted on 03/15/2006 9:32:25 AM PST by AntiGuv
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To: Ramius
And the National Institute of Health wants to use microchips for DRUG DELIVERY http://nationalpropertyowners.org/BRP2002Report.PDF

The cute new word is for that is telemedicine

Can you imagine, drug delivery being RFID capable? You can hack in and kill someone.

6 posted on 03/15/2006 9:33:04 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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7 posted on 03/15/2006 9:34:13 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: AntiGuv

Sure you can:
http://www.azalea.com/

There's tons and tons of bar code software packages out there, read em, print em, do whatever you want with them. Can't transmit a virus with them, but I doubt you can really transmit a virus with RFIDs either, too many variables, not enough space. It's a theoretical possibility sure, but as for really doing it we're talking a serious inside job.


8 posted on 03/15/2006 9:35:48 AM PST by discostu (a time when families gather together, don't talk, and watch football... good times)
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To: AntiGuv
I sure hope not. The sooner RFID gets exposed for the huge threat it is, the better. I think this is excellent news.

Even better news is that RFID may be defeated. When they put the tags with "666" on our forehead we'll be able to recode them to destroy the system.



9 posted on 03/15/2006 9:36:33 AM PST by StoneGiant (Power without morality is disaster. Morality without power is useless.)
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10 posted on 03/15/2006 9:37:01 AM PST by AntiGuv
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Have we really sunk to this level in terms of programming?

Some idiot is really writing an app that harvests a piddly amount of data from an RFID tag an he can't even validate it first before he passes it on to lord know how many other COM, .NET, "Where do you want to go today" objects?

Its sad really.


11 posted on 03/15/2006 9:39:21 AM PST by Pessimist
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You cannot hack a bar code.

Of course you can. With a sharpie, no less.

12 posted on 03/15/2006 9:40:36 AM PST by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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Have you already seen this?
13 posted on 03/15/2006 9:41:34 AM PST by kevin_in_so_cal (http://www.boycottmadeinchina.org - http://www.olympicwatch.org)
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Any program that takes external input without limiting input length is just begging for trouble. You can't have a buffer overrun attack without sloppy programming. This is a problem with the RFID receiver and the computers it is attached to not the RFID itself.

Just imagine being able to print your own UPC symbol with more than the allowed number of bars to break into a cash register's computer. This is similar. You can't count on RFID chips to only come from "friendly" suppliers.

Previous bosses have complained about by tendency to use strncpy and manually placing a '\0' at the end of the space allocated for a string instead of just using strcpy and letting the function do it. Taking the shortcut is how buffer overruns occur.

< /programming geek mode>

14 posted on 03/15/2006 9:42:10 AM PST by KarlInOhio (The tree of liberty is getting awfully parched.)
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To: discostu

Fair enough, then I will be tediously more precise. You cannot steal anyone's identity using barcodes. You cannot monitor anyone's activity in any meaningful way using barcodes. You cannot compromise anyone's privacy in any meaningful way using barcodes. You cannot track anyone's whereabouts using barcodes. You cannot threaten anyone's well-being using barcodes. In fact, there is very little that any normal person or entity would want to do that can be achieved by hacking barcodes.


15 posted on 03/15/2006 9:42:42 AM PST by AntiGuv
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16 posted on 03/15/2006 9:42:46 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Ramius

See my post #15. Use a sharpie if it'll help. ;)


17 posted on 03/15/2006 9:43:23 AM PST by AntiGuv
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Sounds like a good thing that will help a lot of people.

As far as hacking in and killing someone... they could do that now by hacking into the pharmacy.

Just because something *can* be misused doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. Guns and cars and cameras and hair dye can all be misused. There's risk in all things.


18 posted on 03/15/2006 9:47:50 AM PST by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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Sure you can, it's harder, you've got to get a hold of something of theirs with bar code (like an AZ driver's license) and hack the data, but it's doable. And you can't do any of that other stuff with RFIDs, maybe in the future but not now, right now RFIDs are for tracking PACKAGES and make shipping a lot easier. People don't have RFIDs, and given the short range of RFIDs most of the nightmare scenarios are technically unfeasable.


19 posted on 03/15/2006 9:48:39 AM PST by discostu (a time when families gather together, don't talk, and watch football... good times)
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PS. And to be sure, I have no problem with RFID so long as it's limited to unrisky uses. It's many of the proposed uses, which incidentally would involve more memory than the amount supposedly inadequate for viruses, that are of concern to me.


20 posted on 03/15/2006 9:49:09 AM PST by AntiGuv
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