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Anti-War Movement Casualty of In-Fighting [FR and Doctor Raoul Mentioned]
CNSNews ^ | March 15, 2006 | Mark Morano

Posted on 03/15/2006 5:12:12 AM PST by Quilla

With new polls showing that more than half of Americans believe the war in Iraq is going badly and that Iraq will never become a stable democracy, you might think that anti-war groups in the U.S. would be trumpeting their influence.

Instead, the groups appear to be caught in their own brand of civil war, criticizing each other for management styles, sympathizing with Communist dictators and pandering to the media. They have bickered over alleged racism and even over issues like who would get more microphone time and pay for the portable toilets at anti-war rallies.

The feuding appears to have precluded any kind of nationally coordinated anti-war rallies from happening on March 19, the third-year anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. Small, local protests are planned by various anti-war groups around the country.

"The souring of the political atmosphere is largely due to ANSWER, which, in our experience, consistently substitutes labels ('racist,' 'anti-unity') and mischaracterization of others' views for substantive political debate or problem solving," reads the open letter issued last Dec. 12, by the group United for Peace and Justice (UFPJ). It marked the opening salvo in a war of words that has been fought on the groups' individual websites and all over the blogosphere.

In announcing that it would no longer coordinate activities with International ANSWER, UFPJ criticized ANSWER's links to the Workers World Party (WWP), a group that allegedly had supported atrocities committed by Communist regimes around the world.

ANSWER also "has a history of seeking to dominate coalitions and many embarrassing ultra-hard line positions," according to UFPJ supporter Bill Weinberg, whose column was published in the November/December issue of the magazine Nonviolent Activist.

International ANSWER's leader - former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark - was also singled out for criticism after providing legal help to some of the world's most notorious ousted leaders.

"Ramsey Clark, the visible leader of the International Action Center, is a founder of the International Committee to Defend Slobodan Milosevic, and has also provided legal representation for some accused of participating in the 1994 Rwandan genocide. He has more recently volunteered for Saddam Hussein's legal team," Weinberg noted in his column late last fall.

UFPJ's complaints about ANSWER also delved into areas not related to ideology. UFPJ claimed that ANSWER monopolized the microphones during the groups' joint Sept. 24, 2005, anti-war rally in Washington D.C.

"ANSWER did not honor the agreed-upon time limits for its sections of the pre-march Rally, going more than an hour over in one section," the open letter from UFPJ's steering committee alleged last Dec. 12. The letter added that "ANSWER did not turn out many volunteers to provide for fundraising, security and media operations for the March and Rally."

In a Jan. 10, 2006 article entitled "The War within the Antiwar Movement," published on CounterPunch.org, anti-war activist Lenni Brenner defended International ANSWER against the attacks.

Brenner, who is not a spokesman for International ANSWER, questioned why UFPJ had aligned itself with "demagogues" like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

"Demagogues use prevailing fanaticisms. Jackson & Sharpton meet that dictionary definition. Their party's leaders would swim across oceans of snot, stark naked, chasing after Zionist money. They adapt to it. Black congressional Democratic panderers vote for US weapons to Israel," Brenner explained.

"UFPJ's leaders certainly had no idea of Jackson & Sharpton's cons. But, after they read this, they must, as all great philosophers say, s*** or get off the pot."

International ANSWER's steering committee issued its own response in a Dec. 16, open letter, accusing UFPJ of repeatedly attempting to break up the anti-war movement and behaving in a "petty" manner.

"The justifications cited in their December 12 split declaration are embarrassingly petty and astonishingly trivial for a U.S.-based antiwar movement, especially given the gravity of the war itself and the monumental human suffering in the Middle East," the Dec. 16 letter from ANSWER's steering committee alleged.

ANSWER also claimed that it was UFPJ that had dominated the stage at the anti-war rally.

"UFPJ had the stage first at the joint rally. They went over their time. They advised A.N.S.W.E.R. to take an equal time. UFPJ then retook the stage and began telling the crowd to march, even though A.N.S.W.E.R. still had its second segment left," the letter from ANSWER charged.

ANSWER rejected criticism that it had failed to provide enough volunteers for the Sept. 24, 2005 rally.

"UFPJ provided not one volunteer," ANSWER charged while noting that it paid "the full cost for the stage, sound, porta-Johns, back-stage set-up and other expenses for the joint rally."

"UFPJ did not pay one cent," the open letter stated.

When contacted on Tuesday, Hany Khalil, the coordinator for United for Peace and Justice, declined to comment on the split between his group and ANSWER. Shawn Garcia, the national organizer for ANSWER said the feud between his group and UFPJ was "a bad thing."

"Obviously it's a bad thing. We are not unified and stuff like that and they are breaking up the anti-war movement," Garcia told Cybercast News Service. "They refuse to work with us, and that is what they are putting out there. So we will see what develops in the next couple of months. We said we want to work with them. We think that is the best way to go about things," Garcia said.

A third anti-war group, Mobilization for Global Justice (MGJ), has now also entered the feud.

Mobilization for Global Justice has accused UFPJ of "racism," for limiting the speech of Virginia Setshedi, a black South African woman who addressed the Sept. 24, 2005, rally in the nation's capital.

Setshedi "was treated by UFPJ in a manner bordering racism," [sic] read an open letter from MGJ dated Dec. 1, 2005.

"[Setshedi] is a truly visionary activist and a dynamic speaker, and yet was given only three minutes to speak after a long procession of well-known U.S. speakers who were given five minutes each - and often took longer than that," the letter claimed.

MGJ also accused UFPJ of being obsessed with press attention. "The grassroots has no role in determining the political vision of the coalition; the vision and message are driven by the needs of getting on CNN and the New York Times," the letter stated.

MGJ acknowledged that the anti-war movement might be hurt by the growing bitterness among its most prominent groups.

"We know that fracturing and factionalism weaken the movement - and that is not what we seek - but it is equally true that conformity, unwillingness to engage in real debate, and a refusal to air real differences when they exist can stifle and eventually kill a movement," MGJ stated.

UFPJ fired back at MGJ in a Feb. 10, 2006 open letter, claiming to have been "surprised" by the allegations regarding the September 2005 rally and blaming International ANSWER for the problem involving speaking time.

"When ANSWER ran significantly over their allotted times it had a negative impact on our speakers," UFPJ explained.

UFPJ also found itself the target of the D.C. Anti-War Network (DAWN). Earlier this month, DAWN passed a resolution declaring that it would never pay any money to UFPJ for anti-war activities. The group cited dissatisfaction with UFPJ's management style and suppression of local anti-war voices.

"The peace movement is falling apart," declared Raoul Deming, a member of the District of Columbia chapter of Free Republic, a conservative group that supports the Iraq War and frequently clashes with the anti-war activists.

"The major leaders of the anti-war movement are totalitarian, Stalinist or Marxist. They just mistreat the smaller groups that come to support them. They don't listen to them, they don't provide them funding. ANSWER and UFPJ, through their totalitarian management, have aliened a majority of the peace groups," Deming told Cybercast News Service.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 03/15/2006 5:12:16 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Doctor Raoul

Ping!


2 posted on 03/15/2006 5:13:52 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Quilla; Doctor Raoul; kristinn
Headline: D.C. FR Chapter in Uproar as Doctor Raoul Overthrows Kristinn for Chapter Spokesman!
3 posted on 03/15/2006 5:16:09 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action - now do you know what my tagline means?!?)
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To: Coop

Now you've done it - ROFL!


4 posted on 03/15/2006 5:17:13 AM PST by Quilla
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To: BufordP

Buford, now's your chance to move in and take power!


5 posted on 03/15/2006 5:25:58 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action - now do you know what my tagline means?!?)
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To: Mo1

Viola Plummer will be heartbroken...hehe!


6 posted on 03/15/2006 5:28:24 AM PST by Dog
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To: Quilla
chasing after Zionist money. They adapt to it. Black congressional Democratic panderers vote for US weapons to Israel," Brenner explained.

Brenner may not be an official spokesman for ANSWER, but I'll bet he reflects its thinking. There is always, always, this underlying anti-semitism.

7 posted on 03/15/2006 5:29:58 AM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake)
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To: Quilla
"The souring of the political atmosphere is largely due to ANSWER, which, in our experience, consistently substitutes labels ('racist,' 'anti-unity') and mischaracterization of others' views for substantive political debate or problem solving,"

These guys have 1 playbook, and it's straight out of the 1920's Soviet Union. Next they'll be refering to FR and "Right Deviationinsts." Is there any question they'd use NKVD type violence if they could?

8 posted on 03/15/2006 5:33:49 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Dog

Oh my .. looks like a HUGH family feud .. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA


9 posted on 03/15/2006 6:00:23 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: Quilla

Whaaaat? Sorass not putting enugh money in?


10 posted on 03/15/2006 6:05:23 AM PST by Leo Carpathian (ffffFReeeePeee!)
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To: All

I was wondering if the article will get a hit in Google's search engine, and I was right that Google has likely censored it.


11 posted on 03/15/2006 6:35:32 AM PST by Wiz
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To: 1 Olgoat; 103198; 10Ring; 11Bush; 1stbn27; 2ndClassCitizen; 2SterlingConservatives; 2yearlurker; ...

A very funny article about the in-fighting between the various commie groups in the so called antiwar movement.

Good quote also by Dr. Raoul Deming, of Takoma Park!


12 posted on 03/15/2006 6:58:23 AM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: Wiz
I found the article by plugging in "free republic" (using the quotation marks) in a Google News search. It was the fourth hit.
13 posted on 03/15/2006 7:04:25 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Quilla

Have they stormed the White House yet? Today was supposed to be the day....sitting here in Gaithersburg waiting to hear machine gun fire from the direction of DC....


14 posted on 03/15/2006 7:04:49 AM PST by NRA1995 (If feminists are so smart, why do they need masturbation workshops?)
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To: tgslTakoma

Thanks for the ping -- good one.


15 posted on 03/15/2006 7:06:29 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: tgslTakoma
They have bickered over alleged racism and even over issues like who would get more microphone time and pay for the portable toilets at anti-war rallies.

Now these are the really important issues they should be concentrating on. These all important issues should be resolved before they give any more aid and comfort to the Jihadists.
16 posted on 03/15/2006 7:10:18 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Coop

LOL!


17 posted on 03/15/2006 7:24:33 AM PST by maica (You are being lied to. By elements in the media determined that Iraq must fail. - Ralph Peters)
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To: Coop; BufordP; kristinn; Doctor Raoul
D.C. FR Chapter in Uproar as Doctor Raoul Overthrows Kristinn for Chapter Spokesman!

My vote can be bought cheaply:

For ALL candidates: You need to bring kerosene heaters to the WR FReep on Friday night. During the summer, I want a cooling mist spray set up.

BufordP - some good cigars, you can buy them at the cigar shop in Olney. Being at the Olney FReep is a requirement.

Kristinn - you can ping the D.C. Chapter when you post a thread. Also being at the Olney FReep is a requirement.

Doctor Raoul - A weekly supply of pretzels and Philly cheesesteaks at the Olney FReep, since you'll be there anyways.

Coop - What can I say? :-)) Just get your a$$ to Olney and give the PeaceActionMC a good tongue lashing. No permits out here.

Anyone else running?

[Mr] T

18 posted on 03/15/2006 7:58:07 AM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: tgslTakoma

LOL! Thanks for the ping!


19 posted on 03/15/2006 8:31:00 AM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: trooprally
Anyone else running?

What? You don't want to throw your hat in the ring? ;*)

20 posted on 03/15/2006 8:33:45 AM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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