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Kill 'em all, let Allah sort 'em out ain't gonna work.

There will be peace when the surviving Muslims repudiate jihad and dhimmitude.

How many do we want to survive?

1 posted on 03/15/2006 2:02:58 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

This is not a question for us to answer, it is a question for the Muslims to answer.

The question for us to answer is: are we willing to submit, in any way, to Islam? The answer to that question is not no, it is HELL NO!


2 posted on 03/15/2006 3:10:25 AM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; jocon307
If, then, you are in possession of this truth that you are absolutely certain holds the key to universal happiness in this world and the next, why would you be tolerant of alternatives? Why should you tolerate a dangerous lie? Why should you “live and let live,” the credo of the spiritually moribund who stand for everything because they stand for nothing? And why wouldn’t you kill in the name of this vision, when the infidel nations work against God’s will and his beneficent intentions for the human race?

This is precisely what the jihadists tell us, what fourteen centuries of Islamic theology and jurisprudence tell us, what the Koran and Hadith tell us. Yet we smug Westerners, so certain of our own superior knowledge that human life is really about genes or neuroses or politics or nutrition, condescendingly look down on the true believer. Patronizing him like a child, we tell him that he doesn’t know that his own faith has been “hijacked” by “fundamentalists” who manipulate his ignorance, that what he thinks he knows about his faith is a delusion, and that the true explanation is one that we advanced, sophisticated Westerners understand while the believer remains mired in superstition and neurotic fantasy.

What words of incredible wisdom ! Fascinating how the port deal apologists call everyone who questions it a 'racist' or a 'bigot' while it is they who reek of Great White Father condescension in assuming that their 'little brown brothers' admire and worship them and want to be just like them. They babble about the 'racism' of people who take it for granted that Muslims have their own value and priorities while they flatter themselves with the assumption that jihadism is a Muslim misunderstanding of Islam and they have some profound cultural and moral influence over the Muslim world. It is the height of arrogance to say that the Salafists have 'hijacked' Islam. The Salafists are pure Islam. We can't define Islam.

4 posted on 03/15/2006 3:38:40 AM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
The government of Saudi Arabia makes it a crime to practice the Christian faith within their country.

That's all I need to know about Islam.

These people will never be our "friends."

5 posted on 03/15/2006 3:49:56 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
re :Is Islam compatible with a free society?

Begs the question what are we now doing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Both these countries are Muslim and will continue to be so after we have left.

The goal of toppling Saddam achieved.

The question of WMD well whether they existed, or are in Syria under the control of either the Russians or some group are no longer under Saddam.

Iraq's infrastructure for creating WMD is wrecked.

So if we are in Iraq nation building then the answer has to be yes, otherwise we are wasting our time being over there.

12 posted on 03/15/2006 5:22:43 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: F16Fighter

'Good Question' PING


24 posted on 03/15/2006 6:40:34 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Interesting read, thank you.


27 posted on 03/15/2006 7:23:35 AM PST by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
I agree with the mindset that there are not "radical Islamists"! Recent history shows that "Moderate Islamists" (Like our Saudi brothers who secretly preach the killing of Jews & Christians) are just putting on a show to sell oil and stay in power.

The religion itself with the false prophet himself as it's spiritual leader IS the problem!

What do we think about a man who has his detractors killed and then "mercifully" FORGIVES the killers?

Personally I choose Jesus. WAY better prophet and role model. I believe He would call out the sins of the REAL infidels..and yes they would kill him again.

31 posted on 03/15/2006 7:40:36 AM PST by FixitGuy
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What nonsense. What in the world does freedom in Islamic countries have to do with strategy?

There are plenty of unfree countries that are helping us with the War on Islamofacism, and plenty of free ones that aren't. France anyone?

Strategy and freedom are orthogonal.

39 posted on 03/21/2006 7:55:26 PM PST by curiosity
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