Posted on 03/14/2006 5:58:55 PM PST by Louisiana
Can a devout Muslim be an American patriot and a loyal citizen?
Consider this:
Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.
Scripturally, no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran).
Geographically, no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially, no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically, no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.
Domestically, no, because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).
Religiously, no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)
Intellectually, no, because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically, no, because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co - exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually, no, because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as our heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.
Therefore after much study and deliberation....perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both good Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish...it's still the truth. If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country.
These guys are always writing off the other guys ~ that gives them an excuse to kill them. Frankly, I never trust any Moslem that tells me there are only two kinds of Islam.
It's your back, but their Koran says they are to kill you when the time comes. The Bible doesn'y say that!
God in the Old Testament was a pretty rough character.
"A communist is like a crocodile: when it opens its mouth you cannot tell whether it is trying to smile or preparing to eat you up."
- Winston Churchill
Just substitute Muslim for Communist, and you get the idea.
"Los Angeles Cardinal Roger M. Mahony earlier this month said he would instruct his priests to defy a federal proposal to require churches to check the legal status of parishioners before helping them."
http://www.thedesertsun.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060312/LIFESTYLES06/603120319
Of course the "compassionate conservatives" (including the President and General Abizaid himself) might merely consider the truth of the book "Arab-Muslim" bashing.
>"Frankly, I never trust any Moslem that tells me there are only two kinds of Islam."<
- I don't think you read his statement very well. His reference to the two kinds of Islam, what is in the Koran, as the real Islam, and the source of radical Muslim violence. The other kind was: "... One that makes strives to attribute mystical significance and otherworldly meanings to the inane teachings of the Quran..."
Read it again:
"Thus we have two Islams. One that makes strives to attribute mystical significance and otherworldly meanings to the inane teachings of the Quran, as is professed by Sufis, and the other that rejects any interpretation of these verses beyond their literal meanings, as is practiced by the majority of Muslims with their hub in Saudi Arabia among the Wahhabis.
And of course there is a myriad of sects that go in between these two extremes, each interpreting the Quran according to their own whims and caprices..."
Please consider Sina's following statement, and tell me where he is wrong:
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Yes, ere we have actual ex-Muslims (of all races) telling their stories about why they left the Islamic faith, and we are told we are bigots, and or racists for quoting their harrowing stories verbatim.
In the framework of Islam all you have to do is make the argument that another Moslem is either a hypocrite or an apostate, and that's all the justification you need to kill him.
Dr. Sana is using the "hypocrite" trick. Those who understand it know that he's simply encouraging mayhem.
Not terribly Christian of him, but then again, neither are the Moslems, eh?!
>"Look, I know the trick ~ Dr. Sana knows the trick ~ apparantly you don't know the trick."<
-It's Dr. Sina, not Sana...
>"In the framework of Islam all you have to do is make the argument that another Moslem is either a hypocrite or an apostate, and that's all the justification you need to kill him.
Dr. Sana is using the "hypocrite" trick. Those who understand it know that he's simply encouraging mayhem."<
-I'm sorry, but that statement doesn't make any sense at all.
>"Not terribly Christian of him, but then again, neither are the Moslems, eh?!"<
-From what I'm able to gather, Dr. Sina doesn't prescribe to any religion at all now, but I'm not 100% positive about that.
and they are both in the Bible..
Thank you. This is what I was asking for from you.
Mark for reading when I have a little time.
That was then, this is now.
The Koran was written over a thousand years ago. Why does it reflect a Muslims view now and the Old Testament not represent a Christians view today?
"Why does it reflect a Muslims view now and the Old Testament not represent a Christians view today?"
1. (1st part)Yes why?
2. (2nd part) Maybe you ought to read exactly why God orderted Israel to do what they did AND then, read what Jesus had to say.
I do not understand your response. But I bet you are glad you were not Egyptian in biblical times.
bump for later
The Muslim world encompasses dozens of countries ranging from the Sahara to Indonesia, and consists of hundreds of ethnic groups.
So, to try and paint with a broad brush Muslims from countries as different as, say, Bosnia and Mali, is so simplistic as to be useless.
We're involved in a complicated war against a slippery opponent. E-mails like this add little to the discussion.
I realize that not all Muslims will avail not themselves of their Allah given opition to lie. My question is, "How can we ever know which Muslim is evocking his religious right to lie and which Muslim is not?" The simple answer is that we can not know. The only thing we can for sure is that any devote Muslim knows that Allah has told him that lying is OK.
I realize that not all Christians follow their God's law about not lying. When interacting with a devote Christian I can at least be sure that he knows God does not want to him to lie.
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