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1 posted on 03/13/2006 10:30:24 PM PST by Cedar
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There is no religious freedom and little if any freedom of speech or press.

U.A.E. CIA WorldFact Book
Religions:
Muslim 96% (Shi'a 16%), Christian, Hindu, and other 4%

2 posted on 03/13/2006 10:39:37 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Cedar
Wow! This should be a good thread.

Even the parent company of FOX News is slowly but surely being swallowed up by Saudi interests.

3 posted on 03/13/2006 10:42:25 PM PST by La Enchiladita (United we stand, divided we fall.)
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Courts: all emirates have secular courts to adjudicate criminal, civil, and commercial matters and Islamic courts to review family and religious disputes
5 posted on 03/13/2006 10:45:56 PM PST by Echo Talon
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Sorry, I don't believe that this article represents Cheney's views, and I don't trust any organization that conceals the names of its advocates. I scoured the website and couldn't find the identity of its members or officers.


9 posted on 03/13/2006 11:00:51 PM PST by Piranha
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bttt


12 posted on 03/13/2006 11:05:23 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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"There is one underlying issue no one seems to look at; When we sell them equity in corporations and business property we get some cash back right away, but the profits from those deals then flow back to the Islamic states which in the long run makes the deficit flow from the USA even greater."

Law of unintended consequences. Globalism's meltdown effect.

17 posted on 03/13/2006 11:25:16 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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Ping!


19 posted on 03/13/2006 11:31:00 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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"We give the Islamic states hundreds of billions of dollars for oil, but we have nothing to sell them to get the money back except equity in our businesses."


This is line is the worst I've read in a long time. We get hundred of million if billions back in aircraft sales from Boeing, and military equipment sold.

The one thing that I notice from the article is the tone of the religious when this is an economic deal. If we stop trading with those who might hold religious views that differ from our own, then we might as well pack it up and stop doing business with the world.


25 posted on 03/13/2006 11:43:41 PM PST by MissouriConservative (People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid - Kierkegaard)
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"We give the Islamic states hundreds of billions of dollars for oil, but we have nothing to sell them to get the money back except equity in our businesses."

Not true. We sell them all kinds of stuff, but not enough to bring back all the dollars that go over there now with $60 oil. But we do sell many billions of dollars of American products to Islamic countries: Boeing airplanes, SUVs, luxury cars, construction equipment, tons of oilwell equipment and services, chemical plant equipment, movie DVDs, music CDs, etc. It's just not enough to recyle all the petro-dollars back to America, so the remaining dollars return here through purchases of corporate stock and real estate.

It sounds like the writer is oversimplifying Cheney's positions on "social issues." For example, it might actually reduce our influence on the Sudan if we stop trading with them.

26 posted on 03/13/2006 11:48:44 PM PST by defenderSD (¤¤ Wishing, hoping, and praying that Saddam will not nuke us is not a national security policy.)
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From the European point of view the high US-defict is indeed a problem in this world, since the US currency has become dependant from the goodwill in China and the Middle East. You guys simply spent much too much money. Nobody should forget that debts have to be paid sooner or later.

If the reliability of America suffers because of a hype against foreign investments there will be damage for all of us in the western hemisphere. Since your coast guard and your customs are those being responsible for the security in American ports this alarmism is difficult to understand from the outside.

We Europeans made good experiences with investors from the middle East. As normal businessmen they do not want to loose their money with crazy terrorism but want to earn more in stable conditions. The biggest shareholders of the (German-US) Daimler-Benz AG are i.e. Kuweit and Dubai International Capital.

In the short run this development is not bad for us Europeans since our firms are going to skim the money from Dubai and others in the near future. Thinking in bigger dimensions we have reason to be afraid of a change in the leading currencies. If the value of the dollar is dominated by political considerations big holders of the greenback like China and the whole Middle East will try to do their business in euros then. This could lead to fundamental problems in the US economy that has a great benefit from the dollar as the leading currency on this planet.


35 posted on 03/14/2006 1:31:26 AM PST by Atlantic Bridge (De omnibus dubitandum.)
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Dick Cheney is winning the power struggle at the White House between Dick Cheney’s economic conservatives and the George Bush social conservatives

Nonsense. Bush has another agenda entirely.


38 posted on 03/14/2006 3:11:46 AM PST by montag813
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To: Cedar; Sam the Sham; montag813; Atlantic Bridge; CowboyJay; LibertarianInExile; Lancey Howard; ...
Wonder how many more lies, made up hysteria and unconfirmed rumors about the Port Deal the Whine all the Time Choir is going to post? Don't these people ever get tired of being the Democrat Party's Propaganda mouthpieces?

HERE is what the Port Deal was about you silly people.

Was it not just the sweetest little Influence for Hire scam.

Eller & Co , run by fat cat Democrat Donors, got beat out for the P&O deal by Dubai Port World. They hired a big shot lawyer and filed a lawsuit. They knew the Lawsuit was crap so they scurried up to Capitol Hill to cry for help. The Unions also hated the deal cause they knew in new Union Negotiations with the new company they were going to get seriously squeezed by demands of labor saving technological improvements. Chucky Schumer, head of the Democrat Senate Election Committee, took the lobbying info and ran with it. It allowed him to do a number of things. It allows Democrats to nuke their "weak on National Security" PR vulnerability. It gets him a big wet sloppy kiss from the unions in terms of money and foot solider for the Senate campaigns. It gets him big dollars from the Port Terminal companies, it drives a wedge into the Republican base, and best of all he got Know Nothing Talking Heads like Sean Hannity, Mike Savage and Laura Ingraham etc. to do the PR dirty work for him.

The best thing is he can walk away a big winner now, OR he can go to stage two and lobby that the ports be "nationalized" like they did with the Airline Screeners. The Congresscowards, their usual gutless selves, simply looked at the polls and panicked. NEVER even thought that they should stand by the President and fight for the truth. They simply panicked and rolled over for the Dem's AGAIN.

No national security implications, no nonsense about "turning our ports over to Arabs" simply a business deal where the losers went to Congress to buy the influence to reverse the deal. The same Americans running the port terminals now would of been running them after the deal for Dubai Port World. The name on the outside of the terminal and the name on the paycheck given to the American terminal workers would have change and that is about it.

Simply amazing that the same people who whine endlessly about "Bush big spending" and "Big Govt Republicans" now have seen to it that there will be an expansion in the cost, scope and reach of the Federal Govt over the Private Sector. That's the REALITY which the Whine All The Time Choir just screamed down rather then admit the knee jerk nature of their "I'm mad at Bush" hissy fit about the Terminal Deal.

But that right. Don't try to actually learn the facts. Just scream "Koolaid drinker" or "Bush bot" and cling your rabid ignorance.

45 posted on 03/14/2006 11:32:12 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Are you not entertained? Are you NOT entertained? Is this not what you came here for?)
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Yeah, he's controlling GWB with his joystick again. Probably from that same undisclosed location he takes the liberals he invites bird hunting.


47 posted on 03/14/2006 11:58:04 AM PST by .cnI redruM ("Brother, you can believe in stones, as long as you don't throw them at me. - W. Sultan)
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"Cheney wants business as usual with the Islamic world despite the fact that our dollars are financing the Islamist war against us. "


Unfounded cheap shot from this guy, his own words fracture any credibility that he might of had.
53 posted on 03/14/2006 1:53:34 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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