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To: Avenger; Jeff Head

"Not in my experience. I have met a number of people in Taiwan who support independence to one degree or another and not one of them was anti-Chinese culture: they write Chinese (the traditional characters - not the degraded characters that Mao and his thugs created); "

This shows how little you know of Chinese language and literature. They didn't create the simplified Chinese, it has been there for centuries. They just chose to use it instead of the traditional characters.

That's besides the point anyway, the fact is, no country has ever declared independence and not have to fight a war for that independence. Let's not forget the South during the civil war - democractically elected governments declaring essentially independence from the North and what did the Union do? They attack and invaded the South, even though they were democratically elected. If Taiwanese wants independence, then they'll have to sacrifice for it themselves - but they're not, they're waiting for us to come to their rescue.


81 posted on 03/23/2006 8:07:42 AM PST by pganini
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To: pganini; Avenger
Pganini, with all due respect, that's just hogwash.

We in the US needed the French during our own revolution and without their aid, would very likely not have carried the day. But the patriots in America of that day knew this, and not only courted the French aid, but trusted that God would, as Patrick Henry so eloquently put it, "raise up friends to fight our battles for us".

...and He did.

The people of Taiwan are willing to fight and have created, to the best of their ability and at the cost of significant national treasure, a military force to that end for themselves. My experience with them is that a large percentage are willing and ready to fight if it ever comes to it...and we in America have indicated through our own elected representatvies a willingness to help them if need be.

...and we will.

82 posted on 03/23/2006 8:44:39 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: pganini; Jeff Head

"This shows how little you know of Chinese language and literature. They didn't create the simplified Chinese, it has been there for centuries."

I am fairly certain that is incorrect. They may have adopted some older and simpler forms, but its seems to me very unlikely that all or even a majority of the changes have their origin in traditional usage before the 20th century. There were undoubtably other efforts to modify the characters throughout the history of China (the characters didn't just appear out of nowhere), but I'm confident that most of what the communist did was their own doing. Anyways, I'd be interested if you have any evidence to the contrary as I have never heard a Chinese (from Taiwan or the PRC) make a claim similar to yours. And in any case, you have no place disparaging my knowledge of Chinese literature in light of the fact that you have previously made the claim on another thread that Lao Zi was the author of the I Ching; that is an unfathomable mistake - even a commie would know better than that.

"That's besides the point anyway, the fact is, no country has ever declared independence and not have to fight a war for that independence."

I don't believe I commented on this subject one way or the other. Perhaps you were talking with someone else? Anyways, since you didn't address the main points of my post, I will take that as an indication that you have nothing intelligent or relevant to say.


85 posted on 03/23/2006 12:39:43 PM PST by Avenger
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To: pganini; Paul_Denton

And we will come to their rescue. But, you know that, troll.


90 posted on 03/23/2006 2:00:14 PM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: pganini; Avenger
"That's besides the point anyway, the fact is, no country has ever declared independence and not have to fight a war for that independence."

REally? India didn't fight a war for it's Independence, they followed the Mahatma's policy of peaceful resistance......
111 posted on 03/26/2006 10:43:10 PM PST by Cronos (Remember 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia! Ultra-Catholic: Sola Scriptura leads to solo scriptura.)
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