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To: starbase
I see tons of benefit in it, I can't go into all of it here and now as it is getting late.

As for being a 'province of another country'... Taiwan has never been part of modern China. Since the Treaty of Shimoneski back in the late 1800s they were never even territories of China.

None the less the revisionist historians on the mainland seek to prop up the communist party viewpoint...

There are so many benefits to helping Taiwan...Because Taiwan is a ethnically Chinese society that has successfully integrated democratic ideals and commonly accepted truth into it.

That is SO HUGE. Standing alone that should do it, but there is even more than that.

You have a government in China that is held up by lies and propaganda...and is extremely repressive.

For the good of the Mainland and all the people on it, we need to foster change on the Mainland and we will do it by not giving up Taiwan.

That fundamental change and adoption will prevent a future massive culture clash.

By getting them off of their propaganda bs and into a world of truth we are creating a framework where we can cooperate and have peace. We can't have that as long as there is communist party propaganda telling their lies about us and others.

Yeah China got wronged in the past, but the reaction to that was extremely overarching and overreacting. They turned into a nation of extremists. Extremists are hard to get along with. Truth to the masses creates friends.

38 posted on 03/13/2006 9:05:01 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
Taiwan has never been part of modern China. Since the Treaty of Shimoneski back in the late 1800s they were never even territories of China.

I agree with most of your post except for this. Taiwan has been a province of China for a whopping 12 years. 8 years from 1892 to 1900, when the Japanese took it away. Then 4 more years as the government which fled to Taiwan ruled all of China. So for those 12 years Taiwan was a province of China. Plus the fact that it has always been settled by Fukien Chinese, but people want to play a game with "politically" and "ethnically", Chinese, that's all rather disingenuous I think, and you don't have to be a commie to see that!
51 posted on 03/13/2006 9:23:18 PM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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Re: #38

Because Taiwan is a ethnically Chinese society that has successfully integrated democratic ideals and commonly accepted truth into it. That is SO HUGE. Standing alone that should do it,

The conflict arises from having two systems in one supposed society.

In reality its a bunch of smaller societies and cultures...but none the less...the CCP doesn't like competition...

53 posted on 03/13/2006 9:26:02 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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