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What If It Should Really Happen? How Nuclear War Could Begin In A Very Bad Neighborhood-Part II
Jewish Press ^ | March 8, 2006 | Louis Rene Beres

Posted on 03/13/2006 4:29:17 PM PST by SJackson

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1 posted on 03/13/2006 4:29:22 PM PST by SJackson
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Be it conventional or nuclear, it won't end well.


2 posted on 03/13/2006 4:38:46 PM PST by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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3 posted on 03/13/2006 4:39:47 PM PST by SJackson (There is but one language which can be held to these people, and this is terror, William Eaton)
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I think it WILL happen. I don't know where or when. But I really think it is inevitable.
4 posted on 03/13/2006 4:40:25 PM PST by buffyt (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people. Pres. George Bush)
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The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.

Ezekiel 25:17


5 posted on 03/13/2006 4:43:18 PM PST by AmericanCowboy
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Israel will assuredly not allow Iran to proceed to the stage of an assembled nuclear weapons capacity.

Everybody keeps saying that. Yet in the histories I read, it is so much easier to do nothing, hope for the best, and drift into catastrophe.

6 posted on 03/13/2006 4:44:27 PM PST by Graymatter
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an Israeli nuclear preemption would not necessarily be in violation of authoritative international law

Yawn.

If Israel has a shred of concern about international "law", Israel will soon cease to exist.

7 posted on 03/13/2006 4:45:15 PM PST by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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Ironically, a sovereign "Palestinian" State, for which the World clamors, is a prerequisite for a Mideast nuclear war.


8 posted on 03/13/2006 4:46:34 PM PST by Sabramerican
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To: SJackson; All
Pardon the seeming "linkswarm," but there is a lot of info in these old posts of mine:

The Samson Option-- what is known about Israel's Nuclear Weapons?

-Islam, a Religion of Peace®? Some links...--

Blast maps, etc.:

-The India-Pakistani Conflict... some background information- --

Nuclear, Biological, & Chemical Warfare- Survival Skills, Pt. II

U.S. Air Force: Israel has 400 nukes, building naval force
World Tribune | 7/4/02
9 posted on 03/13/2006 4:50:34 PM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Graymatter
Everybody keeps saying that. Yet in the histories I read, it is so much easier to do nothing, hope for the best, and drift into catastrophe.

It is. Time will tell. My guess, Israel will act.

10 posted on 03/13/2006 4:51:08 PM PST by SJackson (There is but one language which can be held to these people, and this is terror, William Eaton)
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>>Be it conventional or nuclear, it won't end well.

I tend to agree with you. There are a billion Muslims out there and some considerable percentage of them believe it wouldn't be a bad thing if they were to fight to the death against non-believers. Whereas almost nobody thinks it appropriate to fight to the death against Islam. If that doesn't change, they win.


11 posted on 03/13/2006 4:52:37 PM PST by Graymatter
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An Israeli nuclear preemption could be expected only if: (1) Israel’s state enemies had unexpectedly acquired nuclear or other unconventional weapons presumed capable of destroying the Jewish State; (2) these enemy states had made explicit that their intentions paralleled their capabilities; (3) these states were authoritatively believed ready to begin a countdown-to-launch; and (4) Israel believed that non-nuclear preemptions could not possibly achieve the minimum needed levels of damage-limitation – that is, levels consistent with its national survival.

With the possible exception of number 3, doesn't Iran already fit the bill?

12 posted on 03/13/2006 4:57:12 PM PST by 11Bush
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Basically what we're looking at is another Cold War, only this time it isn't the USA and the USSR. It's the Muslims and the Jews.


13 posted on 03/13/2006 5:01:02 PM PST by Graymatter
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I don't think number four is satisfied. I'm sure there are conventional ways to stop Iran's nuclear development, especially with the help of the U.S.


14 posted on 03/13/2006 5:06:17 PM PST by Northeastern_Realist
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bump


15 posted on 03/13/2006 5:14:08 PM PST by lesser_satan (You know, if ifs and buts were candy and nuts, every day would be Christmas.)
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If we, and Israel, continue to dither about the Iranian nukes, we are going to see a level of destruction on this planet that we use to fear during the cold war. The Soviet Union didn't want to die, therefore the doomsday scenario worked. Islam doesn't give a sh** if they die or not so the doomsday scenario won't work. We need to strike now and strike hard with conventional weapons, wipe out their capability to make nukes and keep doing it every time they try to start up a nuke program.

Muslims are not to be trusted with nukes!

16 posted on 03/13/2006 5:15:24 PM PST by calex59 (seeing the light shouldn't make you go blind and, BTW, Stå sammen med danskerne !)
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Whereas almost nobody thinks it appropriate to fight to the death against Islam. If that doesn't change, they win.

The heart of the matter. And the elephant in the West's living room.

17 posted on 03/13/2006 5:20:12 PM PST by Noumenon (Yesterday's Communist sympathizers are today's terrorist sympathizers)
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To: calex59
The Soviet Union didn't want to die, therefore the doomsday scenario worked. Islam doesn't give a sh** if they die or not so the doomsday scenario won't work. We need to strike now and strike hard with conventional weapons, wipe out their capability to make nukes and keep doing it every time they try to start up a nuke program.

I think most intelligent folks agree with your assessment and action plan.

18 posted on 03/13/2006 5:20:29 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Graymatter
it is so much easier to do nothing, hope for the best, and drift into catastrophe.

There are some who will do what needs to be done while there is still a choice. You have to be careful, though, and that is where qualities such as wisdom come into play.

19 posted on 03/13/2006 5:21:00 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: calex59
We need to strike now and strike hard with conventional weapons, wipe out their capability to make nukes and keep doing it every time they try to start up a nuke program.

The awful and ugly truth is that we should vaporise the capitols of every Islamic state with Mecca thrown in for good measure. Each and every Islamic state should be blown back to the mideval hell from which it came.

Their 'religion' is nothing more and nothing less than a cult of death and slavery. Their history is one of oppression, slavery, slaughter and impoverishment.

20 posted on 03/13/2006 5:24:25 PM PST by Noumenon (Yesterday's Communist sympathizers are today's terrorist sympathizers)
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