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Workers object to Babylon's tracking system [GPS Nails Slackers]
newsday ^ | 03/13/06 | BRANDON BAIN

Posted on 03/12/2006 9:25:27 PM PST by ncountylee

When the Town of Babylon installed global positioning system technology in most of its fleet of 250 vehicles in January, officials touted it as a way to improve efficiency, particularly during emergencies such as snowstorms. However, the system also is being used to monitor worker behavior -- a realization that has left town .employees increasingly nervous.

One of a growing number of municipalities and corporations around the country using GPS to track workers, Babylon has become the local flash point in the debate over how to balance the desire to improve efficiency with the need to protect worker privacy.

Already, the use of GPS has resulted in the firing of police officers in New Jersey for sleeping on the job, and protest demonstrations by snowplow drivers in Massachusetts. Some national labor unions are so concerned they have tried to include language in bargaining contracts limiting the use of GPS.

In Babylon, the $65,000-a-year system was installed in mid-January in snowplows, dump trucks and public safety vehicles, among others. About a week later, three workers were caught and eventually disciplined -- two for goofing off on town time and a supervisor for failing to report them.

"If you do something wrong, they're going to get you," one town snowplow driver said, glaring at the GPS device on his dashboard. Like most town workers contacted for this story, the .driver asked not to be named because he feared retribution.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; gps; gpstracking; lardasses; peopletracking; privacy; rfid; spoofgps; unionslugs
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1 posted on 03/12/2006 9:25:29 PM PST by ncountylee
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Some national labor unions are so concerned they have tried to include language in bargaining contracts limiting the use of GPS.

Hard to fight this evidence. Hope GPS is widely adopted, taxpayers need all possible help fighting public union abuses.

2 posted on 03/12/2006 9:26:17 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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Sucks when government employees have to work like the rest of us, doesn't it?


3 posted on 03/12/2006 9:27:59 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: ncountylee
I was talking to a power plan engineer in KY last week, and he said, "Pipefitters. You gotta love them - they can perform miricles."

"But you need a transit to see if they are breathing."

4 posted on 03/12/2006 9:31:01 PM PST by patton (Just because you don't understand it, does not mean that it does not exist.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Many seem to forget that a job entails work, not just a paycheck. Workers privacy does not necessarily extend to time on the clock. Unions has better think twice about protecting those who refuse to work for their pay into contract language. There are honest workers who already feel cheated by slackers.


5 posted on 03/12/2006 9:33:51 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence applies in all cases)
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To: ncountylee

Why am I not surprised that they are finding sin in a town called Babylon?


6 posted on 03/12/2006 9:34:08 PM PST by inkling
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"If you do something wrong, they're going to get you,"...

Perceptive fellow we have here! So, just don't do anything wrong. It can't be THAT hard to put in an honest day's work.

7 posted on 03/12/2006 9:53:21 PM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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You're so insensitive.


8 posted on 03/12/2006 9:56:31 PM PST by CAWats (And I will make no distinction between terrorists and the democrats.)
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To: ncountylee
"If you do something wrong, they're going to get you," one town snowplow driver said, glaring at the GPS device on his dashboard.

Not if you spoof it, jam it, or temporarily relocate it...

9 posted on 03/12/2006 9:59:55 PM PST by demlosers (Kerry: "Impeach Bush, filibuster Alito, withdraw from Iraq, send U235 to Iran, elect me President!")
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However, the system also is being used to monitor worker behavior -- a realization that has left town employees increasingly nervous.

God forbid your boss should be watching you when you are at work.

10 posted on 03/12/2006 10:11:29 PM PST by Fido969 (It's all about ME)
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To: ncountylee

"Alas, Babylon"..


11 posted on 03/12/2006 10:17:13 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: ncountylee

Real ID comeing next to you!


13 posted on 03/12/2006 10:33:23 PM PST by quietolong
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To: demlosers

And if you do that, eventually someone will notice.

How is this bad? Why shouldn't OUR employees (civil servants) be required to perform the work we pay them to do?


14 posted on 03/12/2006 10:55:09 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Yeah, someone may notice if you do it enough.

I don't find it bad tracking employees on the clock. I just made a comment about not being GPS observed. If an employee went to those lengths just to goof off, he should look for another job.


15 posted on 03/12/2006 11:14:54 PM PST by demlosers (Kerry: "Impeach Bush, filibuster Alito, withdraw from Iraq, send U235 to Iran, elect me President!")
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To: ncountylee
What is green and white and sleeps three?

A PennDOT truck.

16 posted on 03/12/2006 11:19:03 PM PST by ikka
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I have a pal who plows for the state, they put a GPS in his vehicle.

Now he has to park under an overpass to sleep.


17 posted on 03/13/2006 2:58:45 AM PST by mmercier (so it goes)
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Workers on the job have a very limited sphere of privacy while at work. The employer buys the worker's time for 8 hours each day. If the worker is spending that time in the dounut shop it is veery much the employer's business.


18 posted on 03/13/2006 4:56:55 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than over here.)
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Won't work....the record logs will simply mark where he disappeared from GPS view, then how long it was before he came back into GPS tracking view....the null point of the tracking plot would show exactly where the over-pass is. Tell your friend he needs to dope out a different strategy!


19 posted on 03/13/2006 5:13:41 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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Now he has to park under an overpass to sleep.


I don't know a thing about these systems, but if it does not also provide a way to review the route a vehicle took and how long it took to get from point A to point B, I would be surprised.

It should not matter how long he stays parked under the bridge, if they can tell it took two hours to make a trip that should have taken 10 minutes he will soon have to answer some questions

20 posted on 03/13/2006 5:26:56 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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