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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
"When the Pennsylvania Dutch start beheading tourists, and blowing up passing vehicles on the NJ Turnpike then we'll talk."

I believe your point was "Shared technology (invented by the West) does not equal in any way shared values." I stated (accurately) that the Menonites would disagree with your statement. In other words, they reject modern technology as a means of demonstrating they reject modern values. I never claimed they were a terrorist organization.

729 posted on 03/13/2006 12:44:09 AM PST by Rokke
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To: Rokke; dervish
Embracing the trappings of modernity-in this case, in order to advance a very pernicious goal-is not the same as accepting the underlying Enlightenment values that usually accompany it in most civilized, Western nations.

Modernism was touted by the Ba'athists, and the Nasserites, and the pan-Arabists for a time.

There is no one more keen on acquiring modern implements of destruction than terrorist networks like Al Qaeda, but that doesn't prevent them from desiring a return to pre- medieval times.

The remark most often made whenever another Yankee cap-wearing, boombox-carrying, seemingly "modern" Muslim goes on a self-immolation mission that results in the deaths of scores of his purported countrymen-the humans that live in his adopted nation, a nation that has embraced him, but which he has rejected-is how conflicted he was before finalizing his kamikaze mission.

It is an irreconcilable internal conflict.

Don't trust me, read Dalrymple.

And I have no idea what you were implying in your previously posted comment.

Are you seriously implying that we should normalize diplomatic relations with Iran or Syria?

I don't know if this has dawned on you, but we tried the "engagement" strategy with both of those nations-especially the IRI-and it was a miserable, unmitigated failure.

732 posted on 03/13/2006 12:54:18 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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