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To: TradicalRC
Excuse me but why is an out-of stater so interested in our politics?

I should leave you to your abortion-loving RINOs and mind my own business, huh?

Because who cares how many liberals you and your fellow Illini elect, how does it affect me?

I follow political races in every state and lots of foreign countries, and I point out the facts and offer analysis, because I enjoy it, and because some people like to have the facts publicized.

Ask not for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

80 posted on 03/14/2006 3:17:50 PM PST by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: JohnnyZ

JZ, since some of us opined on JohnyEdwards and other disgraces from your state. Yes, you can jump in on our discussion.

From most of the posts in this thread, you'd think the race is about ideological issues. Wrong.

Toopinka has a fixed number of votes (40%) regardless of where she stands on ideology. She could not care less about guns or gays or abortion. Toopinka's sole interest is money and power. She'd pimp her best whore to anyone with the price.

Her fixed votes come from a corrupt but very experienced and effective organization known as the BI-PARTISAN COMBINE. Regional combine leaders like Rosemont Mayor/Leyden Twp boss Don Stephens and St Rep Skip Savianno deliver a known amount of votes for Toopinka. This is how. They order specific people:

"You will work your precinct and deliver for Toopinka. If you don't, your mother-in-law will lose her job and it will be all your fault." That type of effectiveness has zero to do with the issues. The mother-in-law might have a job with a Democrat, Republican, ambulance chaser or politically correct corporation. It doesn't matter. It is hard-ball.

In contrast, some of us are trying to build a good-government coalition of which us ideological conservatives / libertarians are the single biggest bloc; but not the only bloc. I've already seen coalition builders establish good relations with good-government Democrats (Eisendrath, Claypool, Coconate types) with the intent of getting them to support Oberweiss, should he win the primary. This is the same successful model that was built by Ogilvie in the early 60's.

If the votes were counted today:
Toopinka 40%
Oberweis 39%
Brady 10%
Gidwitz 10%
Martin ....


82 posted on 03/14/2006 4:21:13 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: JohnnyZ

The one positive thing about Illinois politics is that it's not so bad...when looking at California or New Jersey!


100 posted on 03/16/2006 11:01:21 PM PST by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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