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Nixon adviser: Iraq is repeat of mistakes made in Vietnam (Alexander Haigh questions Iraq war)
Jerusalem Post ^ | March 12, 2006

Posted on 03/12/2006 4:34:06 AM PST by Hannah Senesh

An adviser to former President Richard Nixon said military leaders in Iraq are repeating a mistake made in Vietnam by not applying the full force of the military to win the war.

"Every asset of the nation must be applied to the conflict to bring about a quick and successful outcome, or don't do it," Alexander Haig said. "We're in the midst of another struggle where it appears to me we haven't learned very much."

The comments by Haig, also a Secretary of State under President Ronald Reagan in the 1980s, were made Saturday at a conference examining the Vietnam war and the American presidency. But talk at the event that brought together advisers from the administrations of presidents Nixon, Lyndon B. Johnson, and John F. Kennedy turned to Iraq where the panelists saw parallels with Vietnam.

Former Nixon Secretary of State Henry Kissinger made a rare appearance at the conference. He was greeted outside by about 25 protesters who chanted "Kissinger should go to jail, no bail."

Kissinger spoke about the war in Iraq, saying he supported the invasion.

"We have a jihadist radical situation," he said. "If the US fails in Iraq, then the consequences will be that it motivates more to move toward the radical side."

But he was more reluctant to discuss Vietnam, dodging a question submitted by the audience about whether he wanted to apologize for policies that led to so many deaths in Vietnam.

"This is not the occasion," Kissinger said. "We have to start from the assumption that serious people were making serious decisions. So that's the sort of question that's highly inappropriate."

He added that the Vietnam War "has fundamentally affected my life in the sense that the Nixon debate doesn't ever seem to end and for many I am the surviving symbol of the Nixon administration."

Former Johnson adviser Jack Valenti said that the lessons of Vietnam have been "forgotten or ignored" in Iraq.

"No president can win a war when public support for that war begins to decline and evaporate," he said.

Valenti, former head of the Motion Picture Association, added there was no such thing as a good war, saying "all wars are inhumane, brutal, callous and full of depravity."


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: alexanderhaig; haig; iamincharge
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1 posted on 03/12/2006 4:34:07 AM PST by Hannah Senesh
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To: Sidebar Moderator

I wonder if you could add some topics to this post. I appear to have forgotten.

Thanks!


2 posted on 03/12/2006 4:36:37 AM PST by Hannah Senesh
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They have now appeared!

Thanks!


3 posted on 03/12/2006 4:37:21 AM PST by Hannah Senesh
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To: Hannah Senesh
This story jumps all over the place... is it about Iraq, Vietnam, Kissinger, Haig or Jack Valenti's naive views about all war?
4 posted on 03/12/2006 4:55:53 AM PST by rhombus
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To: rhombus

LOL


5 posted on 03/12/2006 4:59:14 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: Hannah Senesh

Note to Jack Valenti:

Guess you wish America had just stayed home during World War II eh?

What kind of freakin motion pictures do you think you would have been watching after the Amerikaan Okkupational Obergruppenfuehrer for Aryan Motion Picture Purity was done with your studios and performers?

Now Jack? Reach around behind yourself with both hands, grab both cheeks, and pinch yourself REAL hard, and WAKE YOUR AZZ UP!!!


6 posted on 03/12/2006 5:00:06 AM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: Hannah Senesh

I'm in charge here.


7 posted on 03/12/2006 5:00:07 AM PST by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: rhombus

"This story jumps all over the place... is it about Iraq, Vietnam, Kissinger, Haig or Jack Valenti's naive views about all war?"

It's about the different views of various people at the conference.

It's an AP story.


8 posted on 03/12/2006 5:04:07 AM PST by Hannah Senesh
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To: mkjessup

"Guess you wish America had just stayed home during World War II eh?"

His comments were not only totally stupid but also utterly immoral.


9 posted on 03/12/2006 5:05:36 AM PST by Hannah Senesh
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To: Hannah Senesh
It's about the different views of various people at the conference.

I think the main point for the story is the headline... another "Quagmire" story for people who want a return to wars that last no longer than 3 weeks at the most.

10 posted on 03/12/2006 5:08:48 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Hannah Senesh
...repeating a mistake made in Vietnam by not applying the full force of the military to win the war.

Wrong analogy Alex, try
"Reestablishing an Elected Government" for 100.
Or "Post War headaches" for 200.
Or maybe "If we wanted to kill everybody, we had the manpower in theatre" for 300.
or "I want to say something to get in the news, but my brain disintegrated years ago" for 400.

11 posted on 03/12/2006 5:17:04 AM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: neverdem

More Vietnam discussion PING!


12 posted on 03/12/2006 5:26:00 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: Hannah Senesh

Haig?? Haig. Haig!! Now I remember. Wasn't he President for about 5 minutes one day back in 1981? (:^D)


13 posted on 03/12/2006 5:27:30 AM PST by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: Hannah Senesh
I'm still hearing of the Iraqi Civil War that no one can find. Ya'll think the MSM is a pullin our leg? If they're pulling our leg on the "civil war", would they be pulling our leg on the real approval numbers?
Get a clue Alex!
14 posted on 03/12/2006 5:27:34 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: JoeSixPack1
"...repeating a mistake made in Vietnam by not applying the full force of the military to win the war."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.....................
seems to me he makes a very solid point. War is or should be an all or none job. Don't start it if you do not have the guts to finish it..as for daja vu we now have Syria and Iran as safe havens to attack us in Iraq, seem familiar some how??
15 posted on 03/12/2006 5:27:57 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: Hannah Senesh

He's in charge here, Haig and a host of others allowed Nam to be sacrificed at the expense of the dead we sustained.


16 posted on 03/12/2006 5:28:28 AM PST by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: mkjessup
"Guess you wish America had just stayed home during World War II eh?"

For the record:

Valenti info:
-pilot in the Army Air Corps in World War II
-flew 51 combat missions
-commanded a B-25 attack bomber with the 12th Air Force in Italy.
- Distinguished Flying Cross, Air Medal with four clusters, Distinguished Unit Citation with one cluster, European Theater Ribbon with four battle stars.

17 posted on 03/12/2006 5:28:37 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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To: jimfree
I'm in charge here.

No, you're not. I'm in charge here. Now beat it.

; )

18 posted on 03/12/2006 5:29:16 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (But even if he does not...)
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To: Hannah Senesh
" Valenti, former head of the Motion Picture Association, added there was no such thing as a good war, saying "all wars are inhumane, brutal, callous and full of depravity "

The same could be said of 90 % of the movies Valenti's prized hollywood puts out.

As for his comments about not being able to win a war without public opinion, he's right. But, he's also a big part of the problem. The american people, while anesticized to cruelty, dpravity, inhumanity and gratuitus sex & violence are also victims of hollywood and network t.v's curent formula for solving world problems. Most are solved in 30 minutes to 2 hours with the exception being 6 hours in a 3 part miniseries.( even this tasks the attention span of most)

The inability of americans to focus ( attention span) is at an all time low and their "sense of reality" so skewed its impossible to truly inform them of anything.

19 posted on 03/12/2006 5:29:53 AM PST by Kakaze (I'm now a single issue voter.....exterminate Al Quaida)
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To: Hannah Senesh
Senility finally sets in for Haig.
20 posted on 03/12/2006 5:32:17 AM PST by newnhdad (All your government branches are belong to us!! not for long if this cr@p keeps up.)
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