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Sad when you think you have free speach everywhere. It clear David Horriwitz has work cut out for him.
1 posted on 03/11/2006 5:33:41 PM PST by texassizednightcrawler
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To: texassizednightcrawler
Statement: "Free speech means free speech"

Response: However, it does not mean license i.e. filth, blasphemy, sedition, treason etc.

2 posted on 03/11/2006 5:36:29 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: texassizednightcrawler
The issue is American citizens having the right to voice their opinions.

His freedom of speech ends when he clocks in to work on my tax dollar.

3 posted on 03/11/2006 5:36:54 PM PST by FOG724 (Arnold is not a Republican)
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To: texassizednightcrawler
The First Amendment to the Constitution is arguably the most important.

Ok, I'll argue. Take away the 2nd and the 1st will die a short death.


4 posted on 03/11/2006 5:39:49 PM PST by unixfox (AMERICA - 20 Million ILLEGALS Can't Be Wrong!)
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To: texassizednightcrawler

The teacher said that he liked to introduce different perspectives into the classroom discussion and that they did not necessarily repreent his views (that he was forcing on the students, a trapped audience listening to an authority figure).

If his convenient lie to the press were true, he would be able to offer up incidents where HE presented the argument from the right (without condensation) rather than leaving it up to his audience to provide that perspective.

As any bored student will ask, "is this going to be on the test?". I doubt that this whole discussion was relevant to the class and was not going to be addressed in any homework assignment or test. Why leave a paper trail of the sedition he preached?


5 posted on 03/11/2006 5:40:09 PM PST by weegee ("Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but Democrats believe every day is April 15.")
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To: texassizednightcrawler

Odd, they left out the right to keep and bear, or maybe not.


6 posted on 03/11/2006 5:41:15 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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"Free speech meas free speech"

Well, ok then ... Marshall University Parthenon person .... you are an ass.
7 posted on 03/11/2006 5:42:07 PM PST by svcw
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To: texassizednightcrawler
Standing in front of a bunch of students spouting propaganda on my tax dollars is not protected under free speech. Hey Teach, take it to a street corner--that would be free speech.

How about we expect geography teachers to actually teach geography?!
8 posted on 03/11/2006 5:43:34 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: texassizednightcrawler
Like all presidents, Bush's policies and procedures are up for public debate. At least we hope so. It is up to the people to to challenge all parties' views to determine what is best for the country.

I seriously doubt that this teacher dissected the Nazi like Wellstone Nuremberg Memorial Rally (covered on the networks) where the Zeig Heils were replaced with "WE WILL WIN! WE WILL WIN! WE WILL WIN!".

10 posted on 03/11/2006 5:44:48 PM PST by weegee ("Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but Democrats believe every day is April 15.")
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after comparing President George W. Bush's State of the Union address to some of Adolph Hitler's speeches. Defending the allegations, Bennish said, "My job as a social studies teacher is to argue alternative perspectives and viewpoints so that students are aware of those points of view. They are simply thrown out there to encourage critical thought

Sorry, I fail to see how this comment (or most of his that has been aired last week) have any connection to teaching GEOGRAPHY! It is propaganda under a different name, that is what is so revolting about this story. If he were teaching political science, I might not think twice about him comparing Bush to Hitler, but com'on Geography? No way. Our public schools are in terrible shape and are being used by the Left to indoctrinate an entire generation.

13 posted on 03/11/2006 5:47:19 PM PST by p23185
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The left is very selective in how they define "free speech".

It certainly doesn't apply to Christians or conservatives on most college campuses.

There are so many holes in this dimwit's argument, that..(choose your own metaphor here).

The left's so called concern for free speech is so transparently partisan, it would be funny if they weren't so pervasive in academia. And embarrasing (for them) if they were rational enough to feel embarassment.


18 posted on 03/11/2006 5:51:03 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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The Bennish case has squat to do with "free speech." The Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that because children are not adults, and schools and the classrooms are not "forums" for free speech. This article is dead wrong.

It is also wrong about the number of the Bill of Rights. There are eleven Amendments in the Bill of Rights. The 27th Amendment is now ratified, and it was written by Congressman James Madison as part of the 17 Amendments which passed the House. 12 of those passed the Senate. And ultimately 11 of those Amendments were ratified as part of the Constitution.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "Daniel in the Lion's Den -- A Red Candidate in a Blue Meeting"

19 posted on 03/11/2006 5:52:49 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com RIGHT NOW. I need your help.)
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To: texassizednightcrawler

Don't say fag.
Don't bad mouth hitlery.
Don't advertise English as a first language.
Don't fly the Confederate Flag.
Don't call teddy 'the swimmer'.
Don't ever wear a Cross to a public school.
Don't ever question a baggage inspector.
Don't ever question the left's patriotism.
And whatever you do, don't ever say Merry Christmas!!


20 posted on 03/11/2006 5:53:52 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: texassizednightcrawler
Free speech means free speech. One of the bedrocks of our democracy is the right of all citizens to say what they want.

I've tweaked one of Bennish's rants a bit so that it's more representative of the opposing point of view. Any right-thinking public school teacher who cares to try using it in class is welcome to it.

"Do you see how abortion is at odds with a nation that claims to support equal rights? At odds with caring and compassion?

Since Roe v. Wade became the law of the land millions of Americans have been executed for the crime of being unwanted and inconvenient. Executed without a trail. Murdered. Ripped apart in the womb and disposed of as medical waste.

Not only were their lives snuffed out, those who killed them were paid to end their existence. How can individuals who could perform such a callous act for profit call themselves doctors? The last time a physician performed such heinous acts with state sanction his name became so infamous that it is still vividly remembered today - Doctor Josef Mengele.

Now, I'm not saying that those who perform abortions are Nazis perpetrating a Holocaust,but there are some eerie similarities..."

Now, don't worry about saying this in class. I'm sure all the caring, tolerant, and understanding folks on the left side of the aisle will be more than happy to defend your 1st Amendment right to present an opposing point of view. Why, I'll even bet that Matt Lauer will lob a couple of softballs your way!

21 posted on 03/11/2006 5:56:26 PM PST by Denver Ditdat (Melting solder since 1975)
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First Bennish was a geography teacher, now he's a social studies teacher... what is he, a John Kerry wanna be?

|I was a geography teacher before I was a social studies teacher|

For you Bennish > oIo

22 posted on 03/11/2006 5:56:45 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: texassizednightcrawler
The First Amendment to the Constitution is arguably the most important. This amendment, packaged with the nine following it as the Bill of Rights, grants citizens the freedoms of press, speech, religion, peaceful assembly and a right to "petition the government for a redress of grievances."

When something starts off with an inaccuracy, what follows is useless drivel.

The First amendment grants nothing. It presupposes such rights already exist and that the government can do nothing to forbid a citizen's exercise of them. In fact, the Bill of Rights grants no rights, it recognizes specific rights we possess and tells the government, "hands off!" Further on, in the Ninth and Tenth amendments, the framers said, "anything we forgot to list here, the rights already exist."

The smartest accumulation of people in history, the founders of the US knew that any right that could be granted could easily be withdrawn.

23 posted on 03/11/2006 5:59:07 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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Free speech means free speech.

Free speech does not mean freedom from the consequences of your speech as an college campus liberal demanded Speech Code will document.

24 posted on 03/11/2006 5:59:44 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (COLD PINK: Frigid Womyn For Peace)
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Recently, a case involving a high school social studies teacher has been given national media attention.

Uh..he's a Geography teacher, not a social studies teacher.

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Free speech means free speech.

True. So if Bennish wants his right to free speech, he needs to NOT be paid.

During class, it's not 'free speech, it's taxpayer funded speech.

25 posted on 03/11/2006 6:07:04 PM PST by MamaTexan (I am NOT a 'legal entity', nor am I a *person* as created by law.)
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The actual prope issue with Bennish is incompetence and irrelevance. He is supposed to be teaching Geography, not Militant Socialism and Revolution. In order to properly utilize Mr. Blemish's talents the school should institute a class in Problems of Revolution or Stridency in Vacuity.


27 posted on 03/11/2006 6:16:31 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than over here.)
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So then I assume that the Marshall University school newspaper has published the Mohammed cartoons.


28 posted on 03/11/2006 6:42:44 PM PST by The Fop (Marxism was built for the West but the West rejected it, and hell hath no fury like a woman scorned)
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What are the first five words of the First Amendment, which define it's scope?
30 posted on 03/12/2006 5:07:40 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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