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What Would Rudy Do?
NY Sun ^ | 3/10/06 | CHARLES SAHM

Posted on 03/11/2006 2:34:27 PM PST by dervish

While Rudy Giuliani is known as "America's Mayor" for his leadership in the weeks following September 11, what has been overshadowed is how he brought accountability and competency to New York's dysfunctional city government during the prior seven years.

The best known turnaround story of the Giuliani era is the 65% plunge in serious crime. By restructuring the NYPD and focusing its resources on the neighborhoods that needed them the most via the famous Compstat system, the poorest neighborhoods saw the greatest reduction in crime and improvement in quality of life.

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Rudy could be considered the original "compassionate conservative" for the far-reaching welfare reforms he engendered. In 1993, one out of every 6.5 New Yorkers was on public assistance. Mr. Giuliani understood that not only was welfare bankrupting the city, it was ruining people's lives by fostering dependency.

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The closer one looks at Mr. Giuliani's record, the more one finds achievements that would please various national conservative constituencies. School choice proponents: Rudy pushed for school vouchers, created privately funded scholarships, brought charter schools to New York, and raised standards at the city university. The individual rights crowd: Rudy ended the bonuses and set-asides the city had given to minority and female contractors. Foreign policy hawks: Rudy is the guy who tossed Yasser Arafat out of Lincoln Center and refused to accept a $10 million donation post-9/11 from a Saudi prince who insinuated that America bore some responsibility for the attack.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


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Mr. Giuliani's record also should appeal to fiscal conservatives. He killed or curbed 23 different taxes, reducing the city tax burden as a share of personal income to its lowest level in nearly 30 years. Inheriting a large budget gap, he not only held the line on city spending but reduced it for several years, keeping average annual spending increases to 3%. While hiring more cops and teachers, Mr. Giuliani was otherwise able to trim the bureaucracy.
1 posted on 03/11/2006 2:34:31 PM PST by dervish
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To: dervish

And so begins the Rudy '08 campaign?

I'd rather see him as Secretary of Homeland Security.


2 posted on 03/11/2006 2:35:42 PM PST by Terpfen (72-25: The Democrats mounted a failibuster!)
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To: neverdem; Do not dub me shapka broham; SunkenCiv

Do we want him? Does he have a chance against Hillary?


3 posted on 03/11/2006 2:36:08 PM PST by dervish ("And what are we becoming? The civilization of melted butter?")
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To: Terpfen

Well this is the local NY paper.


4 posted on 03/11/2006 2:36:56 PM PST by dervish ("And what are we becoming? The civilization of melted butter?")
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To: dervish
Rudy will bring back fiscal discipline, kick some raghead butt and read the riot act to a corrupt UN.

It will be interesting to see how he adjusts his domestic agenda for a national audience.

5 posted on 03/11/2006 2:38:44 PM PST by zarf (It's time for a college football playoff system.)
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To: dervish

Giuliani/Barbour '08


6 posted on 03/11/2006 2:39:55 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: dervish; Do not dub me shapka broham
By restructuring the NYPD and focusing its resources on the neighborhoods that needed them the most via the famous Compstat system, the poorest neighborhoods saw the greatest reduction in crime and improvement in quality of life... Rudy could be considered the original "compassionate conservative" for the far-reaching welfare reforms he engendered. In 1993, one out of every 6.5 New Yorkers was on public assistance. Mr. Giuliani understood that not only was welfare bankrupting the city, it was ruining people's lives by fostering dependency.
IOW, he's a socialist, because he gave more police protection to those who made less and by definition weren't paying as much. /sarc
7 posted on 03/11/2006 2:40:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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To: dervish

Didn't he also institute taking cars of people who were merely charged with traffic violations, before they were convicted?

And isn't he anti-gun rights?


8 posted on 03/11/2006 2:43:04 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...graduated to Glory)
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President Giuliani would make our terrorist enemies extra-crispy. With a Republican Congress, that's good enough for me.


9 posted on 03/11/2006 2:43:20 PM PST by JHBowden (Go White Sox -- World Champs!)
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To: dervish
What is the difference between Rudy and any other far left wing socialist.
He is a gun grabber and screamed worse than Dean about Florida selling weapons.
He is for the murder of unborn children.
He is for the destruction of normal marriage.

If the powers force Rudy or McCain down the throats of the Republican party, it will guarantee a Dim victory!
10 posted on 03/11/2006 2:43:30 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the rear, or a Fool from any side.”)
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To: dervish

We've had a good 5 years in the Second Ammendment department, I'm not ready to give that up yet.


11 posted on 03/11/2006 2:45:25 PM PST by kerryusama04 (The Bill of Rights is not occupation specific.)
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To: kerryusama04

Is he for federal control of guns or just state control? we shall see.


12 posted on 03/11/2006 2:51:11 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: dervish

Rudy would rip new ones all around the world. It would be glorious. Zygotes are in trouble anyway.


13 posted on 03/11/2006 2:52:09 PM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf (http://bloodlesslinchpinsofislamicterrorism.blogspot.com))
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To: dervish
Do we want him? Does he have a chance against Hillary?

Anyone can beat Hillary, but it brings up a good question.

Since Rudy and Hillary Clinton have the same viewpoints and policies on social issues, why would any social conservatives bother voting?

On issues from guns to gays, Clinton and Rudy are in total agreement, so if there a real motivation for someone concerned with social issues to even vote?

14 posted on 03/11/2006 2:52:18 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Echo Talon
Is he for federal control of guns or just state control? we shall see.

Both.

He has made his views regarding guns abundantly clear, time and time again.

15 posted on 03/11/2006 2:53:34 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran; DLfromthedesert; kerryusama04; Echo Talon

"He is a gun grabber and screamed worse than Dean about Florida selling weapons."

Is this what you are referring to? Do you want to re-examine Giuliani's position post 9/11?

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Good morning. It has been a week since the terrible tragedy that happened last Sunday at the Empire State Building. And even as we grieve for the families and our hearts and prayers go out to them, perhaps we can use this senseless tragedy to re-energize the fight for gun control.

A man came to this country from Gaza City on December 24th of last year. Ali Hassan Abu Kamal first arrived in New York and then traveled by plane to Melbourne, Florida, where he checked into a motel.


If this man had wanted to get a driver's license in the state of Florida, he would have had to have gone through some necessary and sensible requirements.

In Florida, you have to take a written test and a driving test to show you understand the rules of safety and the rules of the road. You have to take an eye exam, and your background is checked to see that you don't have a record of being a dangerous driver.

But he didn't want a driver's license, he wanted a gun. And he wanted a gun that could slaughter human beings quickly -- namely, a semi-automatic weapon. And it's much easier to get a license to buy a gun, even a semi-automatic weapon in Florida, than it is to get a driver's license.

All he needed was a registration card that he received by establishing residency at a cheap motel on the same day that he bought the gun. He then bought a .380 Beretta at gun store called The Oaks Trading Post.

This is the same gun store that sold the mass murderer William Cruse a semi-automatic weapon in 1987 that he used to kill six people, including two police officers in Florida.

If Mr. Abu Kamal would have tried to buy a gun in New York, he would not have been able to do so. Because in New York our gun control laws are much stricter and more responsible than in Florida.

To purchase a gun in the State of New York you have to give your full name, your date of birth, your residence, your occupation. You have to prove that you're a United States citizen, you have to show you are of good character, competency and integrity. And you have to demonstrate a real need for the weapon.

And thanks in part to our stricter gun control laws, crime is down dramatically in New York City. Shootings are down over 50 percent. Murder is down over 50 percent. But the fact is that 90 percent of the guns we take out of the hands of criminals in New York City come from out of the State of New York.

We need a federal law that bans all assault weapons, and if in fact you do need a handgun you should be subjected to at least the same restrictions -- and really stronger ones -- that exist for driving an automobile.

The United States Congress needs to pass uniform licensing for everyone carrying a gun. Congress must do more to prevent a tragedy like the one that happened at the Empire State Building from ever happening again.

From Gracie Mansion, this is Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/rwg/html/97a/me970302.html


16 posted on 03/11/2006 2:57:26 PM PST by dervish ("And what are we becoming? The civilization of melted butter?")
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To: dervish

Okay, so Rudi Giuliani made liberal NYCity a less liberal city during his time in office. BFD! Its still a liberal enclave. Rudi was tough on crime, but cleaning up NYCity was part of a national trend that led to lower crime rates.

Rudi Giuliani would be the wrong choice for the GOP. Rudi is pro-abortion on demand, pro-big government, pro-gun control, pro-illegal immigration, pro-envirowacko, pro-special rights for homos, pro-gay marriage, and that makes Rudi anti-family in my opinion. I'm not so sure how well Rudi would prosecute the WOT either.

There are enough pro-defense, pro-life, limited govt, tax cutting, pro-family, anti-open borders conservative Republicans around who could get the job done. America needs a conservative candidate in 2008. Not a liberal like RudiG, or some wishy-washy moderate centrist candidate either.


17 posted on 03/11/2006 2:58:20 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Echo Talon

There is only one constitutional law on firearms and it happens to be Federal.


18 posted on 03/11/2006 2:58:35 PM PST by kerryusama04 (The Bill of Rights is not occupation specific.)
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To: dervish
Do we want him?

Another populist/statist who couldn't care less about the Constitution, I hope not.

Does he have a chance against Hillary?

God help us if he's the only alternative. Ditto McCain

19 posted on 03/11/2006 3:04:16 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: kerryusama04

Yes, but try carrying a hand gun in Chicago.


20 posted on 03/11/2006 3:04:59 PM PST by Echo Talon
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