It's hard out here

Bill O'Reilly.com ^ | Mar 9, 2006 | Bill O'Reilly

[gondramB]

"Now, what are we unenlightened, non-showbiz people to think about the best movie song of the year?"

I wonder if Bill O'Reilly really believes he is not in show business.

[TampaDude]

Yet another example of how Hollywood is woefully out of touch with mainstream America. F 'em...

[Semi Civil Servant]

I'll submit this thing was written in five minutes on a bar napkin someplace.

I wouldn't be surprised if these "musicians" would be hard pressed to write anything in musical notation or English.

[skyman]

I hate it when it uses the words "folks" but I liked
the article. I never pay any attention to the awards but his comparison to winning songs of the past is good and funny.

Have we come a long way!

Actually that should be "fallen" a long way.

[skyman]

I hate it when it uses the words "folks" but I liked
the article. I never pay any attention to the awards but his comparison to winning songs of the past is good and funny.

Have we come a long way!

Actually that should be "fallen" a long way.

[gondramB]

"Yet another example of how Hollywood is woefully out of touch with mainstream America. F 'em..."

Hiphop is not out of touch with mainstream America - it may be out of touch with people who are 50+ but I'm in my 40's and everybody I know listens to at least some hiphop because it's the dominant form of music in America and it has been created and come of age as we have grown up..

But we have more choices these days. With hundreds of channels of satellite music and all those Ipods it's easier for an individual to ignore new music if he wants to.

[ex-snook]

LOL. Pimp now joins the list of America's 'intellectual property' that we want to protect in trade deals.

[durasell]

Let me say that I'm not a fan of hip-hop or rap, etc. etc.

But the stuff is wildly popular worldwide. Two years or so I was in an nightclub with an "international" make-up of young people and, I swear, the Asians, Australians, French, Brits and Slavs all knew the lyrics to American hip-hop and the dance moves...

[AgThorn]

Full lyrics
[Chorus 2X: Shug - singing] + (Djay)
You know it's hard out here for a pimp (you ain't knowin)
When he tryin to get this money for the rent (you ain't knowin)
For the Cadillacs and gas money spent (you ain't knowin)
[1] Because a whole lot of bitches talkin shit (you ain't knowin)
[2] Will have a whole lot of bitches talkin shit (you ain't knowin)

[Djay]
In my eyes I done seen some crazy thangs in the streets
Gotta couple hoes workin on the changes for me
But I gotta keep my game tight like Kobe on game night
Like takin from a ho don't know no better, I know that ain't right
Done seen people killed, done seen people deal
Done seen people live in poverty with no meals
It's fucked up where I live, but that's just how it is
It might be new to you, but it's been like this for years
It's blood sweat and tears when it come down to this shit
I'm tryin to get rich 'fore I leave up out this bitch
I'm tryin to have thangs but it's hard fo' a pimp
But I'm prayin and I'm hopin to God I don't slip, yeah

[Chorus]

[Djay]
Man it seems like I'm duckin dodgin bullets everyday
Niggaz hatin on me cause I got, hoes on the tray
But I gotta stay paid, gotta stay above water
Couldn't keep up with my hoes, that's when shit got harder
North Memphis where I'm from, I'm 7th Street bound
Where niggaz all the time end up lost and never found
Man these girls think we prove thangs, leave a big head
They come hopin every night, they don't end up bein dead
Wait I got a snow bunny, and a black girl too
You pay the right price and they'll both do you
That's the way the game goes, gotta keep it strictly pimpin
Gotta have my hustle tight, makin change off these women, yeah

[Chorus]

[Cvengr]

"...but I'll submit this thing was written in five minutes on a bar napkin someplace."

Congratulations Bill, I suspect you spent five more minutes in placing pen to ink than the composer of the Oscar winning tune has ever spent writing music.

[jdm]

U bussin'. Lead pimp has musicology ph.d from NYU /sarcasm.

[I still care]

"than the composer of the Oscar winning tune"

Tune? There was a tune? Darn, I must have missed it.

[jdm]

Japanese go crazy for hip hop. Especially the obscure, underground Midwestern US type.

[TampaDude]

Hiphop is only the dominant form of music for the under-30 crowd, and there are more people over 30 than under 30 in America. Mainstream America is married couples age 30-50, living in the suburbs. Their kids might love that gangsta (c)rap, but those of us in mainstream America do not.

BTW, the biggest selling artists are rock and country artists, not (c)rappers. Look it up.

[Condor51]

****Hiphop is not out of touch with mainstream America - it may be out of touch with people who are 50+ but I'm in my 40's and everybody I know listens to at least some hiphop because it's the dominant form of music in America and it has been created and come of age as we have grown up..****

Okay... being that it's the "dominant form of music in America", what key is it usually written in? Is it normally Twelve bars or Eight? 3/4 or 4/4 time? How is it normally arranged, i.e: for what instrument(s)?

Never mind as I know the answers - None of the above. As that crap isn't "music". Freaking jungle drums made from logs by Borneo Head Hunters are closer to "music" than that shit will ever be.

[jdm]

I think we're missing the bigger question, which is, of course, what happened to the decent rap music? /sarc

[Incorrigible]

[durasell]

I believe I've reached the age of maturity when the music young people listen to sounds like crap...But they do seem to like it.

A couple of years ago I was shocked when the music -- the protest song played endlessly during the Ukrainian protests -- was a hip-hop song.