Police: U.S. hostage shot, tortured

CNN ^ | 3/11/06 | CNN

[jimbo123]

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- American hostage Tom Fox -- who was kidnapped with three other Christian peace activists in November -- has been found shot in the head with his body showing signs of torture, Iraqi emergency police told CNN Saturday.

There was no word on the whereabouts of Fox's fellow hostages -- Canadians James Loney, 41, and Harmeet Singh Sooden, 32, and 74-year-old Briton Norman Kember -- who were last seen in a video broadcast Tuesday on Arab television.

Fox's body was found wrapped in a blanket around 5 p.m. Thursday in the Daoudi neighborhood in western Baghdad -- dumped on the main road near a train station. His hands and feet were bound, police said. He was wearing gray trousers and a gray shirt.

[exnavy]

You are correct.

[American72]

You know, I ofter wonder, how can these people call themselves Christians? HOW? The Old Testament is full of wars were evil is eliminated by war. It was God who directed these wars.

I wonder the same thing. This week I've been reading some 'devotionals' from a pastor who would probably fit in well with these people. He's been receiving emails back describing the Old Testament wars you speak of. Here is part of his response:

"Earlier this week I heard from a reader (actually I have heard from several dozen readers every day) who wanted me to know that the biblical way to wage war was to utterly annihilate and completely destroy the enemy. He gave some Old Testament examples. They aren't hard to find. The one above from Joshua isn't unusual at all, arguing that God blessed Joshua's troops so they could kill 12,000 men and women but save the livestock and whatever else they found valuable as booty.

I wrote back. (I normally answer all emails but haven't even tried given the deluge I've received this week) I challenged him with the words of Jesus that we are called to love our enemy and pray for those who persecute us. He wasn't convinced. Oh well, at least we're talking.

My point wasn't to win an argument. That part is irrelevant to me. The point, as it always is, is to grapple with the faith. To wrestle with the Bible until, like the angel in the wilderness with Isaac, God gives us a blessing. The war in Iraq is but one example where people of faith, people of all faiths for that matter, are forced to struggle with faithful ideals and physical raw deals."

It is next to impossible to speak reason with people like this.

[Americanexpat]

Why dosen´t Jane Fonda go to Iraq and sit on an anti aircraft gun and pose for the terrorists like she did for the NVA?

There were Quakers against the VN war too. I often wonder what they would have thought if they had been thrown into the cells with our POWs. But the communists were too politically astute to do that, they just used them against their fellow countrymen and prolonged the war until they could win.

The Moslem terrorists are too stupid and barbaric to use these fools against us.

[nmh]

I'm right with you!

It's so exasperating!

I'd say we're right about here:


2Tim.4:3

[3] For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

And

2Thes.2:3

[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

The "falling away" is definitely going on and people are believing what they WANT to believe rather than what God has stated.

If you go through, Numbers, Deut. and Levit. you'll see OUR punishments for crimes. Yes, capital punishment is there. So is, first and second degree murder etc.. Yet people will knock themselves out, denying that our laws and punishments were Bible related.

In our capital, there's Moses, the lawgiver looking down with a full frontal view of his face while other lawgivers only have a profile. Still they want to erase and deny that our country was founded on Judeo Christian principles. It's so sad.

[bboop]

We didn't bail him out. But when the IslamoPigs demand ransom, good people spring for it. Often governments. ie taxpayers. Do we pay ransoms? Sometimes I bet we do.

[bluefish]

My guess is that their organization won't learn a thing and will send more people into the fires of hell.

Indeed, before Mr. Fox's body was even cold, I heard a spokesperson for the organization to which he belonged "forgive" his killers.

[bboop]

I don't think they will get it. They will just blame Bush for Tom Fox's death. Just like that dad blamed Bush for his son/ Nicholas Berg's death.

[Darnright]

>It's just so frustrating from a Christian perspective and even from a secular perspective that common sense is mia.<

You bring up a good point. If these so-called non-violent people were truly sincere, why do they not call on the jehadi to renounce violence? Why to they always go over to Palestine, or Iraq, etc., and bash the USA, as the origin of the violence and of the war?

They don't do so, because they know that, after the terrorists stopped laughing, they'd pick up their swords and lop the anti-war protesters' heads off.

[attiladhun2]

Correcto!!! They have never been part of othrodox Christianity. They believe creeds and the words of Scripture are irrelevant. After all, why do you need the objective text when you can get it directly from the Almighty? However, what these misguided souls don't realize is that lying spirits work to deceive those not founded and grounded in the historic creeds (which are the teachings of Scripture in condensed form) and in the text of the Bible itself. The Scriptures, creeds, confessions, and cathecisms are anchors that keep the believer from floating endlessly into a muddled sea of subjective experience.