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Should liberals leave Catholic Church?
Boston Globe ^ | Mar 6 06 | Joan Vennochi

Posted on 03/10/2006 7:56:42 PM PST by churchillbuff

Every pronouncement from Pope Benedict XVI draws another line between official church doctrine and liberal ideology. When do liberals choose one side or the other?

Sue O'Connell, the copublisher of Bay Windows, New England's largest publication for lesbian and gay readers, believes it's time for liberal Catholics to take a stand -- just like board members did regarding their affiliation with Catholic Charities.

''I know a lot of Catholics, gay and straight," said O'Connell, a lesbian mother of a 5-year-old daughter. ''Everyone continues to go to church and act like their parish is not part of all of this -- the sexual scandal, the association to the Vatican and its stand on gay adoption. Everyone who believes that is in a state of denial."

''It's time to find a new path," she said.

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1 posted on 03/10/2006 7:56:45 PM PST by churchillbuff
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copublisher of Bay Windows, New England's largest publication for lesbian and gay readers""

Talk about a prestigious journalistic post.

3 posted on 03/10/2006 7:58:50 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

Don't let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you...


4 posted on 03/10/2006 8:00:35 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: churchillbuff
We think we can be prochoice, pro-gay marriage , pro-gay adoption, and in favor of married and female priests and still call ourselves Catholic.

Leave already!

5 posted on 03/10/2006 8:00:58 PM PST by Drango (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: churchillbuff

YOu can't be a Gay Catholic.

If you are Gay you have by definition sinned and since you keep sinning, you have left the path of the Church.


6 posted on 03/10/2006 8:01:32 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: churchillbuff
I'll help carry the bags.
Whatever town you enter and they do not receive you, go out into the streets and say,

'The dust of your town that clings to our feet, even that we shake off against you.' Yet know this: the kingdom of God is at hand.

I tell you, it will be more tolerable for Sodom on that day than for that town.


7 posted on 03/10/2006 8:01:41 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Stations of the Cross in Poetry---> http://www.wayoftears.com)
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To: churchillbuff

If they are liberals (first) and not Catholics (first) then they aren't Catholics, by definition.

I'm not a Catholic, but even I know that.


8 posted on 03/10/2006 8:06:18 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Drango
The can call themselves Guernsey Cows. That don't mean you can milk them.

L

9 posted on 03/10/2006 8:07:28 PM PST by Lurker (Cuz I got one hand in my pocket and the other one is slapping a hippy.)
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To: churchillbuff

In this age of churches afraid to take a stand because they do not want to offend anyone I am glad to see the Catholic Church is trying to remain true to biblical truths.


10 posted on 03/10/2006 8:07:55 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: churchillbuff
Should liberals leave Catholic Church?

Is the Pope Catholic?
11 posted on 03/10/2006 8:08:41 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Di'ver'si'ty (adj.): A compound word derived from the root words: division; perversion; adversity.)
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One of my favorite novels is Evelyn Waugh's "Brideshead Revisited." It's a rich and complex novel with many things to say. But one of the points it makes is that the hero cannot MARRY the heroine, although he has an affair with her, because since they are both already married that would put them in a state of permanent mortal sin with no way out. They love each other but cannot marry and remain Catholics.

She even admits that she will probably have more affairs. But, if she does, an affair is a mortal sin that can be repented. Marriage once entered into cannot be repented.

That's pretty much where someone like this stands. A lesbian mother with a five-year-old daughter and a magazine that advocates lesbianism. Yes, there is a way she could remain Catholic. She could vow to live chastely with her partner and bring up her daughter as best she can. And she can ditch the magazine and find some other line of work. But she can't go to confession unless she does something like that, and she shouldn't be receiving communion. So how is she a Catholic if she violates the basic teachings of the Church every day.

Anyone can repent of even the worst sin (except what Christ calls "the sin against the Holy Ghost"). But it becomes very hard when your whole life is basically a sin.


12 posted on 03/10/2006 8:08:53 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: churchillbuff

''It's time to find a new path," she said."


Yes it is.......bu-bye now


13 posted on 03/10/2006 8:09:00 PM PST by Dazedcat
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To: churchillbuff

And, by the grace of God, the screen door would hit them in the ass on their way out!


14 posted on 03/10/2006 8:09:15 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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Should liberals leave Catholic Church?

That would be a good place to start. Hopefully next, they will leave America.

15 posted on 03/10/2006 8:12:45 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Straight Vermonter

Amazing illustration! I completely agree, although it is hard to seperate the sinner from the sin, we are to love the sinner, just as Jesus Christ did.


16 posted on 03/10/2006 8:14:12 PM PST by uhhhitsjames
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To: William Creel
"By chosing these beliefs, they have already left the church, and its teachings."

I would advise her to visit a Catholic Church where Spanish is spoken. They mean business with Jesus and God. She will be a real outcast there. Those Churches are close to being Orthodox. Sin no more. I try my best.

17 posted on 03/10/2006 8:14:58 PM PST by BobS
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To: Writer

Buh Bye.


18 posted on 03/10/2006 8:15:11 PM PST by HRJames (Philippine Branch of FR)
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To: uhhhitsjames

Though in the same breath, I do not approve, and believe Homosexuality to be extraordinarily disgusting. It breaks the barriers of what marriage should be - between a man and a woman.


19 posted on 03/10/2006 8:16:05 PM PST by uhhhitsjames
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To: churchillbuff

Can you be a democrat and be a practicing Catholic...now?


20 posted on 03/10/2006 8:16:10 PM PST by Rick_Michael
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