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Republicans Looking Beyond Bush to 2008
ap ^ | 3/10/06 | RON FOURNIER

Posted on 03/10/2006 5:49:49 PM PST by mathprof

Restless Republicans are already looking beyond the embattled Bush presidency to the 2008 campaign. Nearly 2,000 GOP activists opened a weekend conference Friday to hear from presidential prospects and share strategies on a conservative agenda that many believe Washington has forsaken.

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The dynamic to watch is how far the speakers and conference attendees distance themselves from Bush or the Republican-led Congress while urging the party to return to its conservative values.

Despite controlling the White House and Congress for most of the past five years, many Republicans feel both have fallen short on a number of issues including tax reform, fiscal responsibility, immigration, Social Security and family values.

"A big problem with our base is our spending," said Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who is sometimes mentioned as a presidential prospect. "My time at this convention will be spent talking about a Republican Party that are familiar with — a party of controlling the size of government and reforming the government."

"If we don't have a program that reforms taxes and controls spending different from the Democrats, a lot of people will sit out the next election as Republicans," he warned. "We're dangerously close ... to having a deflated base."

Brownback, a favorite of social conservatives, said runaway spending is a problem for Republicans but so is a failure to produce innovative plans on health care, energy, the environment and rebuilding the American family.

"I think people are searching for new ideas on serious problems that move us together rather than apart," he said of GOP activists. "I think they want somebody who can put forward ideas that have a reasonable chance of broad-based support."

"People are kind of, `Well, I wonder what other people can do,'" Brownback said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008polls; conservatism; republicans; srlc
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1 posted on 03/10/2006 5:49:53 PM PST by mathprof
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To: mathprof

hey should have started looking neyond Bush a year ago. HE IS NOT RUNNING AGAIN. We need for the weak spines that be to find someone who will run and can win. Condi says, "No way!"

So who??


2 posted on 03/10/2006 5:53:20 PM PST by lawdude (2006 Republican bumper sticker : Vote Republican: We are NOT democrats!)
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To: mathprof

"embattled Bush presidency" is no fault or reflection of President Bush but of the idiots attacking him.


3 posted on 03/10/2006 6:16:59 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: lawdude

That may be, but the fact we have to elect a new President in 2008 is Bush's fault, doncha know.

If the leftist media drills into the news at every chance that "it's Bush's fault", then people on both sides of the aisle will eventually buy into it, as is happening.

It's a good thing Bush has a moral compass and ignores the polls. Those who once supported him obviously don't.


4 posted on 03/10/2006 6:19:54 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: mathprof
"A big problem with our base is our spending," said Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who is sometimes mentioned as a presidential prospect. "My time at this convention will be spent talking about a Republican Party that [they] are familiar with — a party of controlling the size of government and reforming the government."

Sorry, I'm not familiar with that Republican party anymore. I fear that if the 'pubbies don't lose in 2008, conservatives will have no chance at all of winning in 2012.

5 posted on 03/10/2006 6:22:21 PM PST by Grut
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To: mathprof
These Republicans need to realize: Bush is still President, and the crap they're dealing--in coordination (intended or not) with the LAMESTREAM PRESS and the 'RATS is doing NOTHING for themselves....Bush will be vindicated by history: on the WoT, on WMDs, on Social Security privatization, even on the Dubai Ports Deal!

And you know what? These Republicans are going to look like petty, wimpy, politicos who didn't have the courage of leadership.

6 posted on 03/10/2006 6:27:58 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: mathprof

This part of the base has already been deflated. Somebody had better get on the ball. November ain't far away.


7 posted on 03/10/2006 6:28:52 PM PST by 308MBR ("Ah fell in ta a bhurnin' ring o' far")
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

I guess I'm one of those idiots.

I don't like to think of attacking GWB, since I like and respect the man himself, regardless of his bumbling, frat-boy nature.

That being said, who in the world is running the show for him? Harriet Meirs for the SC? Get real. The Chinese (COSCO) should have been ejected from port terminal operations about one week after 9-11, and no Islamic government interests allowed near them. I have no problem with NATO countries operating port terminals. Why isn't the AMT killed off already? What about reducing social spending.

I know a lot of this is the fault of Congress, absorbed as they were concerning Terri Schiavo, steroids in baseball and other silly crap (anything for face time on the boob tube) that nothing else could be done. DeLay's comment about there "being no fat to cut" in the budget would make me laugh if it weren't so pitiful.

We need to start hunting RINOs, but with the current leadership of the RNC, I don't see it happening.


8 posted on 03/10/2006 6:37:03 PM PST by 308MBR ("Ah fell in ta a bhurnin' ring o' far")
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To: 308MBR
Good questions.
9 posted on 03/10/2006 6:56:59 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: mathprof

Meanwhile, I don't really care about the GOP's '08 prospects.

They've proven to me they don't deserve leadership.

TRUE leaders don't preach lies and misinformation to justify siding with a misinformed public, made hysterical by these same lies and fears pumped into them from their OWN politicians AND media.

Oh, and the GOP can forget my taking a week off to help them this November. It ain't happening. Let the two party cartel propagandists and third party baptists do the grunt work.


10 posted on 03/10/2006 7:03:06 PM PST by Soul Seeker (House Republicans Send a message: All Arabs are Genetically pre-disposed to terrorism)
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A pox on both their houses!
Every primary ballot should have an...
A.
B.
C.
D. None of the above

None of the above would win most of the time for me.


11 posted on 03/10/2006 7:32:19 PM PST by sheana
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To: mathprof

I would hope they're looking beyond Bush since he isn't running.

What marroons.


12 posted on 03/10/2006 9:13:19 PM PST by x1stcav (Fear not the enemy. It can only take your life. Fear the media. It can take your honor.)
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To: 308MBR
I don't like to think of attacking GWB, since I like and respect the man himself, regardless of his bumbling, frat-boy nature.

You're a rat disruptor, and your language reveals it.

That being said, who in the world is running the show for him? Harriet Meirs for the SC? Get real.

Miers ain't on the SCOTUS Roberts and Alito are.

DeLay's comment about there "being no fat to cut" in the budget would make me laugh if it weren't so pitiful.

If you don't like DeLay, you ain't no conservative. Are you feeling a bit pissed-off because the conservatives in TX didn't abandon the Hammer? The drive-by media polls let you down? ain't that too bad...
and what does DeLay have to do with the 08 elections. I think you're just a little liberal cry-baby.

We need to start hunting RINOs

RINOs like DeLay? Why have you not been banned from FR already?

13 posted on 03/10/2006 10:23:36 PM PST by Once-Ler (The rat 06 election platform will be a promise to impeach the President if they win.)
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To: Once-Ler

Oh great. Just what we need here at FR, another a-hole Bushbot who can't abandon partisan whack-jobbing long enough to think about the country. I don't care if you have been posting here for six years.

Tom DeLay is a poster boy for what is wrong with the GOP today, and this has nothing to do with his legal troubles for which I hope he comes out smelling like a rose. If someone wants to claim conservatism and spends one dime of my money on anything but regulating interstate commerce and defending this nation, he/she/it is NOT a conservative. This includes (but not limited to) investigating my gun safe, garden, medicine chest, and what's under the hood of my car(s). It especially includes ALL aspects of "compassionate conservatism", ie "free drugs for geezers", "faith based initiatives", any of the 399 programs under the dept. of HHS which have not been eliminated over the last six years, the continued existence of the depts. of Energy and Education, passing an act like No Child Left Behind.....I could go on a few days.

The truth hurts, and RINOs like Bush and DeLay have done severe harm to this nation by neglecting a basic duty of DEFENDING OUR BORDERS. I don't give a flying fig about where family values stop, but US citizenship, rights and privileges STOP AT THE BORDER unless you are here legally. If you are here illegally, you HAVE NO RIGHTS AT ALL! No health care, no anchor babies, no welfare, no education. This especially includes that little free assembly in Chicago today that should have been swarmed by ICE agents. "But...but....but we couldn't do THAT because we might alienate some Hispanic (whatever the hell that is) voters." I know stuff gets tight when you only win by 3% or so, but maybe if someone stood on their hind legs and called Islam a death cult bent on political domination not deserving of first amendment protection instead of a "religion of peace" while citing all the incidents over just the last 30 years, the multicultural dems wouldn't have a chance. You don't have to go into the last 1400 years, which are no different, but just stick to the stuff that voters can remember personally. There is plenty.

More specifically, babies born here should be Citizens as it is stated in the constitution. When they are born on our soil to illegals, they should be put into foster care and the mother deported to southern Chile.

Where is the flat/fair tax? What happened to the Barrett Report? Evidently, we just can't get into that with all the pressing national interests in Terri Schiavo and steroids in baseball. I guess cheating in NASCAR is a national crisis too.

GWB has a good moral compass regarding abortion and taxes, but that's about it. I happen to like bumbling frat boys with a conscience. He has a sorry staff, and the entrenched bureaucrats at various agencies give him and the rest of us a hard time.

I'm a disruptor. My language reveals it. Harriet Meirs (Miers...whatever) isn't on the SC and Roberts and Alito are because of people like ME. I don't like DeLay's RINO politics. There aren't enough conservatives in TX, or the Rangers would be on the border with varmint rifles shooting the sheet out of the Mexican military incursions as well as the occaisional "immigrant". I'm not as liberal as you. The reason I haven't been banned from FR already is I think for myself without having to hear what el-Hushbo has to say from his RNC masters.


14 posted on 03/10/2006 11:42:30 PM PST by 308MBR ("Ah fell in ta a bhurnin' ring o' far")
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To: mathprof

A great President or VP anytime IMO.
Ted Olson....

15 posted on 03/10/2006 11:44:53 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: mathprof

The Congress has lower polls then the President. If I were Bush I would run away from Congress.


16 posted on 03/10/2006 11:45:08 PM PST by Brimack34
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To: mathprof

News flash**** AP just realizes Bush is not running in 2008!


17 posted on 03/10/2006 11:49:40 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: 308MBR
Oh great. Just what we need here at FR, another a-hole Bushbot

I got you beat by 6 years newbie, and I'll be here long after you are banned...again.

Tom DeLay is a poster boy for what is wrong with the GOP today

Then I don't want to be right. You got a Senator or national GOP figure you support? I doubt it. I bet the best you can come up with is a no-name congressman who voted for every budget but still complains about it. Tell me who your heroes are genius.

I happen to like bumbling frat boys with a conscience.

You're full of crap and even funnier you think people are buying it.

I'm a disruptor. My language reveals it.

We agree on these points.

I don't like DeLay's RINO politics.

Well, There you go again.

The reason I haven't been banned from FR already is I think for myself without having to hear what el-Hushbo has to say from his RNC masters.

Give it time. It happened before and it will happen again.

18 posted on 03/11/2006 12:05:43 AM PST by Once-Ler (The rat 06 election platform will be a promise to impeach the President if they win.)
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To: mathprof
The Republican Party has no principles. There are no nonnegotiable, unyielding, core philosophies on which the party and its candidates will stand or die. Anyone can call himself a Republican, and the party is happy to have them, no matter what they believe, no matter what they do, if it increases the number of "-R"s in Congress. A party of political whores, for whom gaining and holding power is the only value, the only goal.

I'll ask you what I've asked on FR dozens of times. Take your time in replying; I've never gotten an answer, so I'm used to waiting.

What are the core, nonnegotiable principles of the Republican Party? What can we assume from a Republican candidate and/or officeholder? What can we count on?

Smaller government? No. More liberty? No. Balanced budgets? Obviously not. Constitutionally-limited government power? Hell no. Elimination of wasteful spending? Laughable - the Republicans won't even take PBS off the taxpayer teat. How about a reduction in the absurd growth of spending? Of course not. And whatever happened to those promises to kill off the Dept. of Education? It doesn't educate anybody, and was promised to be shut down; instead, Republicans have created more Cabinet departments.

So, Republicans, how's that "limited government" thingie you've been promising us for decades coming along . . . . . . hmmmmmmm?

Go for it. Defend these lying weasels.

The GOP '08 slogan: "We promise we won't piss away another 14 years. Really. Trust us!"

19 posted on 03/11/2006 12:09:19 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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The Republican Party doesn't even have the stones to get the Barrett Report out there for all to see. And Abramhoff is going to sink a lot of corrupt GOP and 'Rat parasites.

Screw both Big Stupid Government parties. A free America will do just fine without these free-spending, greedy, power-mad claques of parasitic bozos.

20 posted on 03/11/2006 12:13:56 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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