Posted on 03/09/2006 11:44:59 AM PST by cpforlife.org
You are preaching to the choir, dude or dudette. LOL!
hold on hold on... are you telling me that noone disagrees with the fact that it is still wrong to have an abortion even in the case of a rape?
could've sworn I read otherwise...
James, you need to engage someone else in your debate. Not interested. Bye.
"You are preaching to the choir, dude or dudette. LOL!"
Looks like I wasn't.
But hey, who wants to listen to an 18 year old kid who knows you're wrong and won't let you squirm your way out.
All in all,
Smart decision.
HEY, little man.. Pipe down and get off your damn soap box.
MM
Phantomworker, I understand why you didnt want to engage him in a debate, BUT, his arrogance, ignorance, and OBVIOUS disrespect compelled me to give my two cents. :o)
i really hate when people seperate those two wordslike they are two different events. Incest is rapeyou can not consent to sex with a blood relative
Thanks, MM. You have a very sensible and rational way of looking at things. I really appreciate that! :)
Youre Welcome :o)
Wait till I tell my boyfriend that someone thinks Im very sensible and rational... it could very well give him a heart attack. (kidding)
MM
I saw no reason to change, and just used the same screen name. I guess I'm just a Virgil Tibbs kind of guy.
Suppose I drug you and implant a worm in you, so that when I take it out 9 months from now it will evolve into a magic pill that will save someone elses life who would die without it, but in the meantime will change your appearance and make you miserable and everyone of your friends and acquaintances will think youre actually expecting a child of your own. You chill with that, dude?
Suppose I kidnap you and perform medical experiments on you and its a near guarantee that the knowledge gotten from these experiments will save the lives of a hundred babies, and theres only a 3 % chance that you'll end up with varicose veins or some other complication or death even or whatever, would that be okay with you? I mean, why not? You're a life fetishist , arent you? Anything for the life of who ever it is, right? I mean.. Whatever!
Abortion is a selfish act. It's delusional to deem it anything else. It's never the child's fault that it has been conceived. There has to be a better way than taking the life of an innocent baby.
ABORTION FOR THE PLEASURE AND WELL-BEING OF THE ELDERLY
Dr. Archibald Puck, the renowned British gerontologist, announced that his medical research team had successfully developed and brought into operation a completely safe and effective method of abortion. He revealed that this new method is integral to a revolutionary geriatric process that will “vastly improve the life expectancy, vitality, and the sexual pleasure of the elderly.” Dr. Puck announced that the breakthrough had been achieved after fifteen years of government funded research and that “it holds the promise of tremendous social advances worldwide.”
The British Academy of Gerontology confirmed Dr. Puck’s astonishing revelations before a stunned assemblage of medical professionals at Oxford Commons this morning. Dr. Reginald Nero of the Academy said that this new technology will “greatly improve England’s faltering medical reputation after decades of decline from the stagnation of socialized medicine.”
Continuing on, Dr. Puck explained that the new process first requires the acquisition of “superfluous” human fetuses. He stated that the most desirable “incubators” for producing these are girls in their very earliest years of puberty with the ideal age being twelve or thirteen. He emphasized that “the conception, pregnancy, and abortion segment” of the process using these youngsters “will not interrupt or penalize their school life or social development in any way” as government expansion of the publicly acclaimed “Sex and Maternity” program for children had already been unanimously approved by Parliament and had proved a stunning success.
It was reported that fetuses, called “excret”, are harvested from these girls at the sixth month of their pregnancy and then immediately rushed into revolutionary “placenta replicator- incubators” which permit them to continue development to full term. This is accomplished by a technique which provides an environment similar to that from which they were removed. According to Dr. Puck, “vast quantities of oxygen and hormones along with nerve stimulation exercises” are applied to these growing organic masses, each of which in separate crystal enclosures clearly has an outward appearance of the human form.
Commenting further, Dr. Puck said that after reaching full term at nine months, the excret are “painlessly terminated by quick freeze” with brain and nerve matter removed and then rapidly distilled in a process which bonds the residuals with other treated and reconstituted body components including extracted heart tissue and complete sexual organs.
This amazing process culminates in an innocuous clear tablet that is designed for the oral ingestion of the elderly. These tablets, along with various descriptive process charts, were presented for display at the Academy luncheon. Dr. Faust confirmed that startling results have been verified with “the rapid restoration of sexual vigor and vitality in eighty year old men and women who were able to cavort joyously like teenagers.” The demand for these pills is expected to be tremendous.
A “social welfare” department head, who insisted on anonymity, later claimed that she is already besieged by youngsters hoping to be mechanically impregnated in the government supervised program. The entire process is free of pain for the girls, she explained. Quite the contrary. She said that each girl experiences “a tremendous surge of technically induced pleasure and euphoria” throughout the entire conception procedure as well as during the abortion process six months later. In addition, she also explained happily that a four thousand pound stipend is granted to each youngster after the abortion is completed.
It was disclosed that women impregnated in the historically “normal” manner and who suddenly face horrific personal problems causing undue anguish ,such as being jilted by paramours, upset by dress size increases caused by pregnancy, or who might be falling behind in monthly car payments, will have first priority for these special abortions under pending regulations. This “should help keep a kettle top on the population growth of the financially and intellectually challenged” Dr. Faust laughingly offered.
Dr. Faust commented that necessary prioritizing of female incubators to favor those having personal problems will “unfortunately limit” the number of pubescent girls who will be accepted to the program, possibly disappointing their own birth mothers who stand to also share by law in the financial bonanza. However, he said that a minimum percentage of youngsters supplying excret is essential and that this minimum “will be maintained for both technical as well as social development reasons for the young.”
Dr. Puck, commenting during the luncheon following , reported that many other new and promising developments “may very well come from this process.” As an example, he indicated that experimentation had already begun on the birthing and factory raising of excrets with the purpose of utilizing them as living organic entities to be used for “dangerous, tedious, or other difficult labors not truly suitable for humans.”
The British Government has allocated the considerable sum of forty million pounds for continued work by Dr. Puck’s group on these new applications.
If the Clonaid folks, the Raelians, actually develop cloning like they claim they already have, and they abuct you and implant a randomly cloned embryo in your ass, and need to keep you locked up for 9 months so the clone child will develop, and you agree that this is ok, then I give your arguments some legitimacy.
The child has no rights because you, or anyone else does not have the RIGHT, the authority, the legitimacy, the moral foundation to impregnate a woman thru force. You are telling me that forced pregnancy is a legitimate way to bring a child into this world. I am telling it is not.
Are you trying to imply that this topic has no bearing to what is good or evil in the eyes of God?
Wrong answer. If the rapist gets the blame for the child's death, then he should get credit for the kids who are raised and become respectable members of society. If some kid who's the product of rape is given the Nobel prize for physics 40 years after the rape, does the rapist get the same credit as the mother who raised the Nobel Laureate?
If I shoot and kill you because you break in to my house and claim you have a right to live there, I have no responsibility for your death. If I only wound you and you later win a nobel prize for economics, I have no claim to your prize either.
You asked, "If abortion is wrong because all life is sacred and it is equivalent to murder, then how could you justify the murder of a child because of how he or she was conceived?" Enter into your calculus the well established American notion of 'self defense'. Since there is a new human being at stake when pregnancy results from rape (or incest in the case of a minor child) only the hard fact of self defense could justify the abortion or result in forced end to pregnancy (ending the increased risk to life of the woman/girl by ending the pregnancy VERY EARLY IN THE PREGNANCY with DNC, or late by bringing the alive child into the world and making him or her a ward of the state or adopted).
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