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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I didn't say that.

I have no idea if Iran is "justified in their approach" or not. But I do know that it makes no difference to me if the Congressional testimony documented here was given by Michael Ledeen or by Ronald McDonald. He is a thoroughly discredited "expert" on anything related to the Middle East, and as such his opinions are suspect in my mind regardless of whether they are correct or not.

13 posted on 03/09/2006 12:50:27 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child; Ernest_at_the_Beach
To a very large degree I have to take AC's view on this. Quite frankly, I read nothing that has not been discussed over and over again for many years. His solution for regiem change is quite shallow. Unlike say NK, whom is very isolated, totally dependend on the world to feed it, Iran is very oil rich and not isolated. It is located geographically in an extremly strategic area. Iranian's are not going to attempt to take on the military and secret police. They like any dictatorship only take action after a strong liberator come in and crush the oppressing rulers and obedient military assets.
Sadly the EU need oil, and to varying degrees, say the Iranian pot to Germany may be around 15-20%. The Saudi, Nigerains, Sudan, Libya, South America cannot simply make up the raw supply of oil if Iran where to be shut down.
It just is not that easy. Oil/Gas demands are as we all know at a peak demand world wide. And the Iranians supply at least 10% to the world markets.
The world economies are fragil in nature, so much depending on the individual parts contributions.
And the only way to shut down Iran is to do one hell of a job on them. Literally take everything oil/gas related out.
It would have to be approved by the UN in the way of sanctions just like in Iraq's case. And we know where that leads. All key players other then Russia depend on oil importation to a great degree. And the Mullah know this.
At any rate. The articles brought up nothing new. At least for me. We simply rehash over again the same things.
And the military solution means pre-emptive total decimation of the Iranian infrastructure regarding oil/gas, which then brings up the issue, as how those supposed Iranians that like the US, for instance, will then feel.
For those that would suggest we totally take out Iran, e.g. nuke, and conventionally obliterate their populations centers, factories, in short everything above ground which has to include killing millions of people to destroy the industrial complex, then send in appropriate land forces to literally destroy all located in deep bunkers (NUKE PROOF), in conventianal means, presents a little problem as some might surmize.
14 posted on 03/09/2006 1:12:37 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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