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N.J. has last laugh: No. 5 in livability
Philly Inquirer ^ | Thu, Mar. 09, 2006 | Troy Graham

Posted on 03/09/2006 6:48:25 AM PST by Huck

Who's laughing now?

New Jersey, the state that spawned a thousand wise-guy bumper stickers and became the butt of a million late-night jokes, is actually a nice place to live.

The research group Morgan Quitno crunched the numbers this year and yesterday ranked New Jersey the fifth-most-livable state.

As for its neighbors?

Pennsylvania finished 30th, New York 32d.

"The people we talk to say they wouldn't live anywhere else, and I have to go along with that," said Mark Moran, a Bloomfield resident and one of the editors of Weird New Jersey magazine. "Whether it grows on you or people just don't know any better, I don't know."

New Jersey has long had a tragically poor reputation, earned by corrupt politicians, homicidal mobsters (real and fictional), surreal traffic patterns (who invented the jughandle, anyway?), toxic waste, and big hair.

The state's image has been so bad that even then-acting Gov. Richard Codey took the time last year to rollick in some of the more humorous entries in his public slogan contest.

Among the favorites: "New Jersey: You got a problem with that?" and "New Jersey: Most of our elected officials have not been indicted."

Morgan Quitno, a Kansas-based publisher of statistical data, based its rankings on 44 factors, and New Jersey shined in many.

The state moved up from eighth place a year ago. New Hampshire was judged the most livable state for the third year in a row.

The study determined that New Jersey has excellent schools; an educated, wealthy population; and relatively low rates of crime and poverty.

"We don't claim to be finding the most exciting place or the best place to take a vacation," said Scott Morgan, president of Morgan Quitno. "It's just looking at very basic things. Other people can choose to look at other factors."

In other words, the things that make Jersey so Jersey didn't count against it. (Except for the toxic waste: Morgan found New Jersey had the most "hazardous waste sites on the National Priority List per 10,000 square miles.")

Moran also noted that if auto insurance and property tax rates had been considered, New Jersey's ranking would have sunk like a stone.

But in Morgan Quitno's world, livability is measured by factors such as student-teacher ratios and per-capita spending on the arts, and New Jersey excelled in both.

For Moran, there is no conflict in a state's combining livability with a tradition for the weird and absurd.

"You've got to take the good with the bad," he said. "The fact that it's such an odd and unique place... certainly makes it more livable for me."

Morgan visited the state last year and made a swing through Camden, the city his publishing company has famously labeled the most dangerous the last two years.

"We didn't advertise who we were," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New Jersey
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To: FlipWilson

Haha, welcome aboard ;)


361 posted on 03/09/2006 1:47:36 PM PST by XRdsRev (The Democrat Party - Keeping Black folks on the "Plantation" since 1790)
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To: 2banana
But in Morgan Quitno's world, livability is measured by factors such as student-teacher ratios and per-capita spending on the arts, and New Jersey excelled in both.

In other words, confiscating wealth in order to finance government intervention in areas where it doesn't belong, or where government funding is of dubious value.

That sounds like an odd barometer to use when you're measuring livability.

Do they have a corresponding freedom index, so that I'll know where not to move to?

362 posted on 03/09/2006 1:51:59 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Huck
NEW JERSEY & CORRUPTION - PERFECT TOGETHER!
363 posted on 03/09/2006 1:53:21 PM PST by leprechaun9
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To: Huck; Exit148; firebrand; ELS; Coleus
New Jersey rocks. Where I live is farms and mountains, but I can be in Manhattan at a concert or cultural event in about an hour and change. I can be in the Pocono Mountains in about an hour. Or at the beach. We've got redneck towns, artsy towns, boring soccor mom suburbs, urban towns, pretty much whatever your taste is, we've got it here. It's not perfect, but it's pretty darn good.

You said it, Huck! Of course now you're letting the secret out. You're shocking FReepers whose only image of NJ has been the scenery during the opening credits of 'The Sopranos'.

Hmmm... maybe I should move back to NJ one of these years... ;-)

364 posted on 03/09/2006 1:59:47 PM PST by nutmeg (NEVER trust democRATs with our national security)
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To: Huck
Hmmmmm NJ good? Color me surprised. I spent about 5 hours in the Newark airport and I didn't take my eyes off my luggage. Scary people!
365 posted on 03/09/2006 2:07:21 PM PST by Ditter
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To: mware

I meant to include you in my post #364. ;-)


366 posted on 03/09/2006 2:12:19 PM PST by nutmeg (NEVER trust democRATs with our national security)
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To: Ditter

Yeah, I had a layover in Dallas Airport once. I didn't realize magazines in Texas were so expensive. /sarcasm.


367 posted on 03/09/2006 2:30:37 PM PST by Huck (space for rent)
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To: leprechaun9

Wow man. That's so clever and original. We all know the other 49 states are pure as the driven snow.


368 posted on 03/09/2006 2:31:53 PM PST by Huck (space for rent)
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To: nutmeg

I'm surprised how many freepers watch that dumb show.


369 posted on 03/09/2006 2:32:39 PM PST by Huck (space for rent)
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To: Huck

You must not travel much, everything in any airport is expensive.


370 posted on 03/09/2006 2:57:34 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Huck

There are two New Jerseys. Not to sound like a failed candidate, but nonetheless . . .


371 posted on 03/09/2006 6:22:27 PM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand

LOL! That was funny. But breck girls aside, yeah, there's at least two NJs. Probably more. Its diversity is its strength, but you have to take the bad with the good. The bad is pretty well contained, though. I mean, East Orange pretty much stays East Orange, and Basking Ridge stays Basking Ridge, etc.


372 posted on 03/09/2006 6:26:03 PM PST by Huck (space for rent)
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To: Clemenza
Unfortunately, the taxes are high, the politics s-ck, and there needs to be stricter zoning along the I-80 and I-70 corridors.

The fact that this is the only state where you can get a real Italian hotdog trumps all of that:)

373 posted on 03/09/2006 7:21:37 PM PST by RepubMommy
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To: Calpernia; Coleus; Clemenza; Huck
I grew up by a cementary even older than that. I use to sneak in to read the tombstones when I was little.

anyone ever been to Annie's Road?

374 posted on 03/09/2006 7:26:12 PM PST by RepubMommy
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To: Huck
You totally don't get it. You don't see them moving to Pittsburgh do you? Know why? Cuz a 10 hour commute to NJ would be murder! They aren't running away from NJ. They are expanding NJ. In effect, the reach of NJ is spreading to Eastern PA. They are staying as close to NJ as possible because they work here

This is true. I work in a hospital that borders on the Lincoln Tunnel. We do have some employees who live in Eastern Pa. I think they still want the connection with their roots.

375 posted on 03/09/2006 7:29:16 PM PST by RepubMommy
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To: Clemenza
Hudson County has been the "doormat to the world" since the Paddies came over in Black '47. If you spend time along Berganline, and are patient among the locals, you may have a good time, eat some great food (ummm, Tostones), and pick up a nice chiquita de Colombia for yerself

Berganline Avenue til this day, has some of the best shopping venues.

376 posted on 03/09/2006 7:31:07 PM PST by RepubMommy
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To: Clemenza

As a Brooklyn boy, you might find it interesting that we used to refer to Valley Stream (where I went to elementary school) on Long Island as "Bensonhurst with grass."



I had to go to LI for the first time in my life two weekends in a row last month, my oldest daughter had dance competitions there. Ugh, what an incredible PITA to get to. This Jersey girl will stay on this side of the GWB thank-you-very-much.


377 posted on 03/09/2006 7:36:37 PM PST by RepubMommy
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To: RepubMommy

Annie's Road? Is she the girl that died on Prom Night?


378 posted on 03/09/2006 7:38:51 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: RepubMommy

no, who was annie?


379 posted on 03/09/2006 7:41:24 PM PST by Coleus (What were Ted Kennedy & his nephew doing on Good Friday, 1991? Getting drunk and raping women)
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To: SengirV

I live in Jersey exit 114.


380 posted on 03/09/2006 7:47:16 PM PST by NorthEastRepublican
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