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Father's Rights? Men Want Right To Turn Down Fatherhood
The Indy Channel ^ | March 9, 2006 | AP

Posted on 03/09/2006 5:51:30 AM PST by Abathar

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To: Abathar
Liberals are such socially destructive little weasels. Only a string of expletives would adequately describe the depth of my disdain for them.
41 posted on 03/09/2006 6:13:54 AM PST by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: jasoncann

The goal is to keep children from living in poverty.


42 posted on 03/09/2006 6:14:17 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Shimmer128
I don't believe that.

It doesn't matter if you believe it or not. The fact is that the guy's girlfriend, who he wasn't married to, stuck him with the bill for a child fathered by someone else and the court approved it. These facts are not subject to your belief in it or not. Now, do me a favor and get over yourself.
43 posted on 03/09/2006 6:14:38 AM PST by JamesP81
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To: Abathar

"I guess I was always brought up to be a man and except responsibility for my actions. Besides that I would look at that child as part of me, a life I created that I would want to have the best life possible"

I want those very rights to what I consider My body...I am not "Giving" it away...there is a distinct Purpose involved in the case of having sex. I want my rights to one of the potential outcomes of said sex outside of having to buy breakfast the next morning.


44 posted on 03/09/2006 6:15:37 AM PST by Explodo (Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
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To: mlc9852
Have you left out any details?

No, she wanted children, he didn't. He wouldn't provide, so she went and got knocked up. That simple.

Did the man acknowledge the child may have been his?

I don't know, and it doesn't matter. The test settled that matter; it was not his child.

Did he have any involvement in the child's life?

To the tune of $800 per month. This was established within days of the child being born, so there literally wasn't time for him to be involved even if he had wanted to be. A child that he did not father, I might add.

Or was he just some guy that this woman pointed out as dad even though they didn't know each other?

They knew each other, as they were dating. I fail to see what that has to do with anything.
45 posted on 03/09/2006 6:20:00 AM PST by JamesP81
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To: Kozak

"Men always have an opportunity to avoid fatherhood. it's called a zipper, and if they keep it closed it's 100% effective.

So lets flip this around.

B**ch: I got knocked up, I don't wanna be a momma, I wanna abort this thing.

Society: That's what you get FOR NOT KEEPING YOUR LEGS CLOSED B**CH! Now shut the **** up and pay for what you created!

In essence, this is what your attitude tells men all the time.

Now how would that play in Preoria?


46 posted on 03/09/2006 6:21:04 AM PST by Al Gator (Remember always to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: zerosix

Actually, this suit is excellent for highlighting that a woman can do the same thing---keep her legs together or stay home. The law now says a woman can be sexually reckless and not have to shoulder the full consequences (she can force the man to pay), but a man who is sexually reckless has to pony up to the consequences.

I think this actually highlights one of the many stupid things about Roe v. Wade.


47 posted on 03/09/2006 6:21:22 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: RichInOC

"It's called "not banging her in the first place". Works every time it's tried,"

Better include oral sex with that. One man is paying child support because the woman saved his sperm. He thought he was being responsible. LOL!


48 posted on 03/09/2006 6:21:36 AM PST by imskylark
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To: Abathar
This was posted yesterday and it was reassuring to see that most of us FR men are real men willing to do what is right.

Sadly, there were a few who agreed with this lawsuit but only a few.
49 posted on 03/09/2006 6:21:41 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (No animals were harmed during the creation of this post.)
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To: mlc9852
And what solution would you offer?

It's called a "paper abortion." For as long as the mother has the right to teminate her pregnancy, the father has the right to sever financial responsibilities for the child.

The days of "heads I win, tails you lose" for women are coming to an end.

50 posted on 03/09/2006 6:22:08 AM PST by papertyger
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To: mlc9852
The goal is to keep children from living in poverty.

No it's not. The custodial parent doesn't have to provide one single receipt to show the support money is being spent on the child. The courts and DSS make damn sure the money is collected and sent, but their oversight ends once the money is delivered. How does that guarantee the child does not live in poverty?

51 posted on 03/09/2006 6:22:40 AM PST by Niteranger68 ("Only 4 out of 3 Democrats actually vote.")
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To: JamesP81

Sounds like he needs a good lawyer. I have never known of a case where DNA proved a man is not the father, has never been married to the mother, has no involvement with the child, yet still was ordered to pay child support. Are you sure you have all the facts in this case?


52 posted on 03/09/2006 6:23:13 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: wouldntbprudent

Both parents are financially responsible for their child.


53 posted on 03/09/2006 6:24:31 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: papertyger

And if women had to take full responsibility for not keeping *their* zipper up---IOW, if there was not ready access to abortion and the possibility of forcing the man to pay---there might be a lot fewer "unintended" pregnancies.

One argument that has kept Roe alive all these years is that women "rely" on the availability of abortion. That is actually stated in the Supreme Court opinions! IOW, women should be allowed to be sexually reckless, so they should be allowed unlimited access to abortion.

By arguing that the law should allow men to be as equally sexually reckless, it points out how stupid it is to use the "right" to sexual recklessness as a justification for public policy / constitutional analysis.


55 posted on 03/09/2006 6:27:44 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: Abathar

Excellent idea, home they win the case.


56 posted on 03/09/2006 6:27:53 AM PST by jpsb
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To: papertyger

Do you have any children (that you know about)?


57 posted on 03/09/2006 6:30:14 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
Are you sure you have all the facts in this case?

Quite sure.
58 posted on 03/09/2006 6:30:23 AM PST by JamesP81
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To: jasoncann

Sounds like you are the one looking for excuses.


59 posted on 03/09/2006 6:31:32 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

I agree with you, mlc. The only cases I have heard like this the man was married to the mother at the time she gave birth.


60 posted on 03/09/2006 6:32:07 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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