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At Conservative Forum on Bush, Everybody's a Critic
washingtonpost.com ^ | Wednesday, March 8, 2006 | Dana Milbank

Posted on 03/08/2006 7:08:13 AM PST by beeler

If the ancient political wisdom is correct that a charge unanswered is a charge agreed to, the Bush White House pleaded guilty yesterday at the Cato Institute to some extraordinary allegations.

"We did ask a few members of the Bush economic team to come," explained David Boaz, the think tank's executive vice president, as he moderated a discussion between two prominent conservatives about President Bush. "We didn't get that."

Now why would the administration pass up such an invitation?

Well, it could have been because of the first speaker, former Reagan aide Bruce Bartlett. Author of the new book "Impostor: How George W. Bush Bankrupted America and Betrayed the Reagan Legacy," Bartlett called the administration "unconscionable," "irresponsible," "vindictive" and "inept."

It might also have had something to do with speaker No. 2, conservative blogger Andrew Sullivan. Author of the forthcoming "The Conservative Soul: How We Lost It; How to Get It Back," Sullivan called Bush "reckless" and "a socialist," and accused him of betraying "almost every principle conservatism has ever stood for."

Nor was moderator Boaz a voice of moderation. He blamed Bush for "a 48 percent increase in spending in just six years," a "federalization of public schools" and "the biggest entitlement since LBJ."

True, the small-government libertarians represented by Cato have always been the odd men out of the Bush coalition. But the standing-room-only forum yesterday, where just a single questioner offered even a tepid defense of the president, underscored some deep disillusionment among conservatives over Bush's big-spending answer to Medicare and Hurricane Katrina, his vast claims of executive power, and his handling of postwar Iraq.

Bartlett, who lost his job at the free-market National Center for Policy Analysis because of his book, said that if conservatives were honest, more would join his complaint.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bartlett; betrayal; bush; cato; christiansocialist; danamilbank; gop; lbjrepublican; libertarians; presidentbush; sullivan; washingtonpost
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To: beeler

He was the most conservative person that could possibly be elected. If a candidate is unelectable, it is just farting in the wind.

By the way, Harriet Meirs never even got a hearing. You have no idea whether she would have made a decent justice or not.


81 posted on 03/08/2006 9:31:36 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

Hahaha. Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh harder. Bwahahaha!


82 posted on 03/08/2006 9:33:31 AM PST by beeler ("When you’re running down my country, Hoss you’re walking on the fighting side of me.")
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To: eskimo

Lets see...considering Bush is pro life, has reigned in the EPA, improved the military, nominated conservative judges in nearly every instance to the Appeals and Supreme court, taken a stance against late term abortions and stem cell research....the list goes on and on.

Maybe not conservative enough for you, but far more conservative than many in the US. If he isn't conservative enough for you...vote Democrat next time.

They will show you what true liberals can do to this nation.


83 posted on 03/08/2006 9:36:40 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

There has been no vast expansion of the government under George Bush.

84 posted on 03/08/2006 9:36:55 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: beeler

I assume you can read. That's why I sent you the link.


85 posted on 03/08/2006 9:37:41 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun
That's a defeatist argument at best as well as simply not true. Reagan was elected twice, once in a landslide. There are plenty of "electable" conservatives out there, it's just that the party shuns them. Often with as much vitriol as the far-left. True about Miers, and same goes for both Alito and Roberts as they have yet to prove themselves.
86 posted on 03/08/2006 9:38:13 AM PST by beeler ("When you’re running down my country, Hoss you’re walking on the fighting side of me.")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I like CATO but take their recommendations with a pinch of salt. Some of their stuff is just not real world.

These are observations, not recommendations, and I think they are spot on.
87 posted on 03/08/2006 9:38:42 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: steve-b

See post 82.


88 posted on 03/08/2006 9:39:48 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: beeler
That's a defeatist argument at best as well as simply not true. Reagan was elected twice, once in a landslide.

As much as I love Ronald Reagan, he gave an amnesty to illegals, and ran the highest deficits in the history of this nation. He also ran against Jimmy Carter, the worst President of all time, at a time when interest rates were over 10% and unemployment heading to double digits.

If you applied the same standards to Reagan that you did to Bush....

89 posted on 03/08/2006 9:43:28 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Blueflag
Um, where they gonna go?? DU?

They can go watch a movie. I like nothing at all about the Democratic party; but, I know that the only way to clear the crap out of the GOP is to allow the Democrats to come in and clean house. So we give them 4 years and wait for new Republicans to develop some values. Hopefully they will come back with something we can vote for.
90 posted on 03/08/2006 9:43:41 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: A.Hun
Those charts actually don't tell a great story, because they say that federal spending to GDP has been rising for the entire time Mr. Bush has been in office.

In 1993, the first year of the Clinton administration, total spending was 21.4 percent. It was 18.5 percent when he left in 2001. Under the Bush presidency it has risen to 20.1 percent. "Programmatic spending," i.e. entitlements, went from 11.2 percent to 10.9 percent under 'Toon, and has risen to 11.8 percent since. Discretionary spending went from 8.2 percent to 6.5 percent from 1993-2001, and has risen to 7.9 percent since. (One percentage point of that latter is defense.)

But of course Pres. Bush has governed with a GOP House during his entire time, and a GOP Senate for much of it. So we could reasonably expect that spending not rise, but (defense aside) actually fall as a percentage of the economy. Instead we got the prescription-drug entitlement, which (like all such entitlements) will prove to be far more expensive than first forecast and which many GOP Reps., to their credit, opposed. I don't really want government to return to its normal level when the GOP is in charge, I want it to shrink. That it has not is probably a function of what the public wants, but this shatters the notion that the GOP is any sort of revolutionary party on spending.

On spending Pres. Bush has made mistakes. I think he now realizes that, but a lot of the damage is done.

91 posted on 03/08/2006 9:46:06 AM PST by untenured
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To: A.Hun

As I said -- a drunken-sailor binge, with spending up from $1863.2 billion (2001) to $2472.2 billion (2005).


92 posted on 03/08/2006 9:46:13 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: A.Hun

There's one massive, undeniable, glaring difference. Republicans own congress. The best position for conservatives in the history of the country has been squandered. This opportunity will not present itself again thanks to our inept leader.


93 posted on 03/08/2006 9:46:52 AM PST by beeler ("When you’re running down my country, Hoss you’re walking on the fighting side of me.")
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To: ARCADIA

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I like nothing at all about the Democratic party; but, I know that the only way to clear the crap out of the GOP is to allow the Democrats to come in and clean house.
>

There is no evidence that providing Democrats with the power of incumbency is a path towards improvement. There is also no evidence that a comment like this would differ at all in its goal from that of Democrat activists.

FR must embrace the concept of defeating Democrats, unconditionally. Any other approach advances the cause of the left. Period and full stop.


94 posted on 03/08/2006 9:47:51 AM PST by Owen
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To: beeler
Now why would the administration pass up such an invitation?

A better question is why should anyone from the administration go? They have much better things to do.

95 posted on 03/08/2006 9:48:19 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: ARCADIA
"I know that the only way to clear the crap out of the GOP is to allow the Democrats to come in and clean house."

Oh good heavens. That's like saying the only way to clear the crap out of Cuba was for Castro to come in and clean house.

96 posted on 03/08/2006 9:50:03 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: steve-b

Look at percentage of GDP...that is the only meaningful way to compare. Also, look at the amount increase for military as opposed to discretional spending.

Discretional spending has stayed in the 3 to 3.5 percent range.

Entitlements can't be touched by GWB..


Using gross dollar amounts is a common dodge, as is lumping everything together.


97 posted on 03/08/2006 9:50:38 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: beeler

These d*cks in our Congress couldn't pull a wet string out of a cat's a$$. That is not GWB's fault.


98 posted on 03/08/2006 9:52:24 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Owen

The evidence is that gridlock works very well.


99 posted on 03/08/2006 9:52:30 AM PST by chris1
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To: eskimo
Conservative minded people support conservative ideals

There's socially conservative, fiscally conservative, etc. There's no one description of 'conservative minded' no matter how much you may close your eyes and wish it to be so.

100 posted on 03/08/2006 9:52:57 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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