Darwin smacked in new U.S. poll (69% of Americans Want alternate theories allowed in class)

WorldnetDaily.Com ^ | 03/07/2006

[Dominic Harr]

You can be confident that that 69% are not just people seeking acadmeic freedom of discussion.

How do you figure that?

I believe the ToE is correct. And I'd answer, "Yes" to this poll. As would almost all scientists and ToE supporters.

All evidence should be taught.

In fact, since ID has *no* evidence supporting it, this poll comes down squarely against ID.

[Antonello]

BTW, What do you mean "other side"?

I am of course on the other side of the ACLU.

Personally, I don't let the ACLU have the power to choose what side I am on. Instead I decide for myself, and if they happen to agree that's their choice. Are you implying that they can control what you believe?

[RHINO369]

All scientific theories have problems. This is a very very very very very very very very small chance that if you threw a ball at a wall, that the ball would tunnel threw the wall, going threw it, without ever touching it, or breaking threw it. Does that mean God decided that the ball should go threw it?

If you have evidence the theory of evolution is wrong, gather it, then make a new theory, then write a paper, just like scientists do. Then we will teach it at universities, then if it gains popular acceptability we'll teach it in HS and middle schools.

Most of what is taught in High School chemistry and biology classes is over simplified or is plain wrong. You think electrons orbit a proton? Nope, totally wrong.

[The_Victor]

I suppose it's too obvious to just teach the truth.

[narby]

Since evolutionists violate all the rules of logic when coming to their conclusions

I'd love to see you support that statement.

[editor-surveyor]

"They claim to be pro-science but aren't and are really pushing their own liberal agenda vis-a-vis the culture war."

I might go one farther: This is an out and out war on the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

[zeeba neighba]

Truer words were never spake, ed.s

[Dominic Harr]

I suppose it's too obvious to just teach the truth.

Isn't that what this poll actually says?

A certain group with an agenda is trying to claim this poll supports them. But what the poll actually says, if you read it, is people believe in teaching all evidence.

Which evos believe.

If you have evidence of ID, then present it. To date, none has been presented. Therefore, by this poll, 69% feel ID should not be taught.

[mlc9852]

Someone finally had the nerve to say it!

[editor-surveyor]

"Should their views be considered when teaching economics?"

They already are. Lotteries are shamelessly promoted with public funds on TV, in schools, and on billboards.

[microgood]

I'd love to see you support that statement.

Easy. Evolutionists say that because we have common characteristics with the DNA of chimps, we have the same common ancestor. That is a logical fallacy. They also say that because all life have similar RNA that we all come from the same beginning singularity of life. That is also a logical fallacy. I could go on and on.....

[Antonello]

well what else would an athiest believe? That we simply materialized, or were put here by aliens?

Whoa, wait a minute...Forgive me if I am putting words in your mouth, but are you saying that were it not for your belief in God you would have no problems accepting the ToE?

[muir_redwoods]

"69% want Intelligent Design taugtht!!!!"

And about 75% read and believe in horoscopes. Fortunately, science isn't decided by a vote. Since the ID-iots have no data with which to demonstrate their position and evolutionary biology is well documented only the science of evolution and not the wishful hoping of ID-iocy should be taught to our students.

[EricT.]

These damn evolution/creation debates are so flipping tiresome. Neither side gives a squeaky fart what the other side has to say. It's a waste of bandwidth that could otherwise be used for ridiculing commielibtards.

[narby]

I might go one farther: This is an out and out war on the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

I guess the earth is 6000 years old too.

Whether you want to admit it or not, many Christians accept evolution and all the rest of science. That you have a doctrinal disagreement with other Christians is nothing new. My grandmother thought all Catholics were destined to hell. There are hundreds of different Christian denominations for a reason you know.

[jec41]

All of it!

[RunningWolf]

BTTT

[The_Victor]

If you have evidence of ID, then present it. To date, none has been presented. Therefore, by this poll, 69% feel ID should not be taught.

Precisely my point. I still can't figure out what the some evos fear in presenting the evidence. The truth will hold up under scientific scrutiny, all other assertions will be demonstrated as false, eventually. But the students will be better off for the exercise.

[zeeba neighba]

Well, when Hillary comes to power, she can phone Janet Reno to come and solve the little Fundie problem.

[narby]

Evolutionists say that because we have common characteristics with the DNA of chimps, we have the same common ancestor.

It's a little more complicated than that. Not just similar DNA. We have identical, inherited virus DNA segments that vary between species in an identical pattern to the morphological conclusions of past species splits.

But regardless, your original sentence was "Since evolutionists violate all the rules of logic when coming to their conclusions"

You need to support your claim that science violates *all* the rules of logic when coming to *all* their conclusions.

You have a bit more supporting to do on your statement.