Posted on 03/07/2006 2:34:37 PM PST by SirLinksalot
Darwin smacked in new U.S. poll
Whopping 69 percent of Americans want alternate theories in classroom
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Posted: March 7, 2006 5:00 p.m. Eastern
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com
A new poll shows 69 percent of Americans believe public school teachers should present both the evidence for and against Darwinian evolution.
The Zogby International survey indicated only 21 percent think biology teachers should teach only Darwin's theory of evolution and the scientific evidence that supports it.
A majority of Americans from every sub-group were at least twice as likely to prefer this approach to science education, the Zogby study showed.
About 88 percent of Americans 18-29 years old were in support, along with 73 percent of Republicans and 74 percent of independent voters.
Others who strongly support teaching the strengths and weaknesses of evolutionary theory include African-Americans (69 percent), 35-54 year-olds (70 percent) and Democrats (60 percent).
Casey Luskin, program officer for public policy and legal affairs with Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture said while his group does not favor mandating the teaching of intelligent design, "we do think it is constitutional for teachers to discuss it precisely because the theory is based upon scientific evidence not religious premises."
The Seattle-based Discovery Institute is the leading promoter of the theory of Intelligent Design, which has been at the center of challenges in federal court over the teaching of evolution in public school classes. Advocates say it draws on recent discoveries in physics, biochemistry and related disciplines that indicate some features of the natural world are best explained as the product of an intelligent cause rather than an undirected process such as natural selection.
"The public strongly agrees that students should be permitted to learn about such evidence," Luskin said.
The Discovery Institute noted Americans also support students learning about evidence for intelligent design alongside evolution in biology class – 77 percent.
Just over half – 51 percent – agree strongly with that. Only 19 percent disagree.
As WorldNetDaily reported, more than 500 scientists with doctoral degrees have signed a statement expressing skepticism about Darwin's theory of evolution.
The statement, which includes endorsement by members of the prestigious U.S. National Academy of Sciences and Russian Academy of Sciences, was first published by the Discovery Institute in 2001 to challenge statements about Darwinian evolution made in promoting PBS's "Evolution" series.
The PBS promotion claimed "virtually every scientist in the world believes the theory to be true."
Of course words don't reproduce, and living things do.
Words are not subject to selective breeding for desired traits, and living things are.
Most of your word variants would be considered nonsense, but bulldogs and teacup poodles are both dogs (at least to their owners).
You mean like this one.
Secondary source, freeper post. A HERV-K provirus in chimpanzees, bonobos and gorillas, but not humans."
The significance of the work presented here is the demonstration of the utility of HERV-K as a marker for studying human evolution, the conclusion that HERV-K was active at about the time that the three lineages were evolutionarily separating, and the very strong experimental evidence that, in some fraction of the genome, chimpanzees, bonobos, and gorillas are more closely related to each other than any of them is to humans. HERV-K and other retrotransposable elements should contribute to determining what that fraction is.
Full article here(but his may not work)....http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6VRT-433PCG6-S&_coverDate=05%2F15%2F2001&_alid=374741385&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_qd=1&_cdi=6243&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=5e49b0326a8026f472bfcb0022b73c67
Several possibilities were considered to explain how a provirus could be present in Gorilla and Pan but be absent in Homo. It is highly unlikely that the provirus was deleted in humans, as the retroviral integration process is irreversible.
It is a good article. In the end, they use Darwinian logic to fit the pieces together, but it grieviously injures the assertion that ERV's are the end-all to assigning absolute relationships.
Thats right, get the facts.
"Why?"
Can you think of something that has always existed without being created? It doesnt make sense. How can something have always been there? Who put it there? There had to have been a beginning.
I ended up with this moniker because making fun of the French huffiness over mispronunciation of their gargling gibberish was fresh on my mind, April 23 2000. Someone I knew was a Francophile and I just can't stand Frenchness. Look what happened.
So like all good philosopers, you've never applied what you have learned? If you want to play that game, I've taken the same Logic course, tempered by Applied Analysis courses and Applied Math and Physics courses. In all of thoss classes, they warn you not to over simplify your logic. Obviously you never got the memo.
Whether we all came from the same initial life form or evolved from a common ancestry with chimps has nothing to do with current Biotech, just mainly a bunch of university bound professors that preach the dogma.
Again, not so good on the applied side of things are you? You are starting to sound like a postmodernist when you mislabel things you clearly don't understand as dogma. Sure you aren't a pomo in disguise?
On the internet your screen name suggests a 57 year old beer swilling man posing as a woman.
:)
Well see, I thought it meant like maybe a spinsterish educational assistant who might wear a corset.
Dream on.
Thanks Wolf, and I'm headed out on a country road pretty quick here.
ZeusDidit placemark
Get Educated, Dummy!
You need a hyphen between beer and swilling--but it's also amusing as it stands.
Since we're discussing corsets, do you know where the term "loose woman" came from?
In the end, any competitive theory must do more than point out anomalies. It must explain and it must provide direction for research.
Loose woman? I never thought of it before.
There is evidence against the theory. here are some things to consider.
1. Natural selection is not a strong enough force to have changed us from bacteria to humans even over a zillion years. How come other animals/beings (like other bacteria) havent changed? What was wrong with their natural selection?
2. The idea of evolution just being completely random doesn't wash. There has to be an Intelligent Force controlling it.
3. There was an issue with the propellors on the first organisms (one-celled.) The organism could not exist without the propellor, it could not survive, but the propellor had to have been brought about by natural selection, which couldnt have happened unless the organism was alive, which it couldnt be, if it didnt have the propellor.
4.According to the theory of evolution, in the distant past there was no life in the universe -- just elements and chemical compounds. Somehow, these chemicals combined and came to life. How'd that happen, what caused it, what caused that, and how did the chemicals and other elements get there?
5. Why do we still have appendixes?
6. If evolution is caused by mutations, why are most mutations malignant and negative?
7. "Darwinists claim that the reptile-to-mammal evolution is well documented. But for reptiles to evolve into mammals at least some of these transformations must have happened:
• Scales had to have mutated into hair.
• Breasts had to have evolved from nothing.
• Externally laid eggs had to evolve into soft-shelled eggs that were nourished by an umbilical cord and placenta in a womb.
• It has never been observed in any laboratory that mutations can cause one species to turn into another. Despite this, evolutionists believe that given enough time, some animals will eventually evolve into other creatures.
• Sir Fred Hoyle, of Cambridge University stated that statistically the chances of one cell evolving was the same as a tornado passing through a junkyard and giving you a fully functional Boeing 747.
--There are many creatures that defy evolution. All of the examples below illustrate complex and sophisticated biological structures. It is difficult to believe that these creatures could have evolved, since all of their systems had to have been in place at the start for them to survive. Angler Fish; Chicken Egg
Beaver; Giraffe
Black And Yellow Garden Spider; Incubator Bird
Bombardier Beetle; Woodpecker
more to come if I have time...
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