Democrat for Senate: Kill practicing 'gays'

World Net Daily ^ | March 7, 2006

[Conservative Coulter Fan]

Democrat for Senate: Kill practicing 'gays'

Candidate says incumbent Republican not advocating biblical values enough

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Posted: March 7, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Merrill Keiser

A Democratic candidate for the U.S. Senate in Ohio wants to make homosexual behavior a capital crime punishable by the death penalty.

Merrill Keiser Jr. is a trucker with no political experience, but he hopes to beat fellow Democrat Rep. Sherrod Brown in the May primary. The winner will try to unseat Republican incumbent Sen. Mike DeWine, assuming he wins the GOP primary.

"Just like we have laws against murder, we have laws against stealing, we have laws against taking drugs – we should have laws against immoral conduct," Keiser told WTOL-TV in Toledo.

Keiser, 61, says he's running as a Democrat because that's how he was registered the last time he voted.

The trucker, who hails from Fremont, Ohio, says there needs to be more adherence to biblical values in government, business and education – something he claims DeWine is not promoting.

"I believe that the United States has been moved in a Godless direction by the courts," he told the Sandusky Register. "To get good men on the court, we need good senators."

Some of Keiser's other positions include defense of the Second Amendment, securing U.S. borders, lower taxes to stimulate the economy, support of Israel and prayer in public schools.

Keiser told the Register the United States should make conversion to Christianity part of the war on terror to teach Muslims the error of their choice in religion.

The candidate also decries evolution, saying it is contrary to the Declaration of Independence.

[ALWAYSWELDING]

And let me reiterate.

Forgiving an individual personally is holy and righteous, but the state is not suppose to show pity. They are suppose to carry out the convicted's sentence.

In every day terms....... I may get a ticket, the officer was upset due to my excessive speed. After talking to me he realized my remorse and willingness to change my ways. I asked God to forgive me for the excessive speed and reckless behavior, and he did. GOD AND THE STATE STILL EXPECT ME TO PAY THE FINE. I'm forgiven, but I still owe my restitution.

[Gordongekko909]

Lyndon LaRouche "has run for the Democratic nomination for President in every election year since 1980, including in 1992 while he was in prison, a record of eight attempts."

[Conservative Coulter Fan]

I know only that you can be spiteful, petty, and vindictive as you’ve demonstrated on this thread. I, nor the Bible, proscribe killing a disobedient child. The penalty of death was described only severe cases of young men (and women) who were beyond the control of their parents much like a gang member in today’s society, to use a modern example. The fact remains that people such as you fail to read, study, and understand scripture. I don’t look at God’s law or his commandments as “ancient,” but I look at them as enduring and everlasting. Furthermore, I have cited the Apostle Paul, to show that the New Testament condemns the sin by name as well (Romans 1:18-26; I Corinthians 6:1-9).

Then you falsely claim Christ overturned the law. Let's recount some facts: Jesus' acceptance of God's unchanging torah (Matt. 5:17-19), a torah wherein God's unambiguous attitude toward murder is beyond debate; outlines applications that are deeper than are explicit in torah (Matt.21-48); Jesus' repeated encouragement of others to obey the guidelines of torah (Matt. 8:1-4), especially if they would enter eternal life (Matt. 19:16-17); Jesus' quotation from torah specifically about the death penalty (Matt. 15:4); appeals to the "law [torah] and the prophets" (Matt. 7:12); instructs a leper concerning observance of Levitical guidelines (Matt. 8:1-4); instructs his followers to obey the teachings of Moses even as interpreted by the Pharisaic bet-din (Matt. 23:1-3); cites torah in a discussion with the Sadducees (Mark 12:18-27).

As to your citation of the “churches,” yes, a great many churches are in utter decay clearly more driven by secular pop culture and trends than by the teachings they profess to aspire to – only you don’t adhere to the teachings or you just mark through what you don’t like, because after all the Bible merits arbitrary obedience according to you. Read, Slouching Toward Gomorrah, and read Robert Bork’s chapter on the trouble with religion. I’m reminded of the synagogues of Satan in the Book of Revelation.

It isn’t a sin, nor was it ever, to wear cotton and wool, and the only fools utterly ignorant of the Bible (willfully in your case) attempt to make such a fallacious charge so that you may denigrate the law, which by Christ’s own words will lead you to be called the least in Heaven (Matt. 5:17-20).

[RHINO369]

Hey Coulter Fan, your majesty should we kill masterbaters and fornicators too?

[nonsporting]

Only can may PUNISH.

? Do you mean "Only God may punish?" This is clearly not the case in Genesis (9:6), since man has been authorized to execute those guilty of murder. And in the New Testament Romans 13 discusses the proper function of legitimate government as a "minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil". (Romans 13:4)

[Conservative Coulter Fan]

God is not invisible and you need an only open your eyes. When you say, that by the authority of God, I claim millions of people on earth should be killed, you neglect in context - need I quote the statistics on homicide or rape in the United States? I would no more mourn those people than I would the men of Sodom, or the Canaanites for that matter.

I am a conservative and I believe inalienable rights granted by God, not men. I do not, however, believe in radical individualism, which followed to its logical conclusion leads to nihilism. I pay homage to the Constitution and I don't see it as in conflict with the Bible - remember the Bible was the most cited source by the founders.

As for mass murder - look around you - there is mass murder (abortion). People like you are lukewarm on such a horrible crime of the worst magnitude, but you have the "supremacy" to challenge me...and the only reason you accuse me of mass is because we've allowed the situation to crumble to such a low, but rest assurded that on Judgment day, as it says in the Bible, the streets will be filled with rivers of blood and many will perish.

I'm not "repressed" in any way. This is ironic, because the whole point of that failed social ostracization is that you desire oppression of what I say. Furthermore, what an absurdity to claim people are what they dislike or hate - if you hate murderers, are you a murderer - if you hate pedophiles, does that make you one - please explain this perplexing line of attack because Freud as been thoroughly discredited and ridiculed - a charlatan of sorts that snorted enough cocaine to kill a horse.

[Conservative Coulter Fan]

Of course I submit to the Apostle Paul - Romans 13:1-5 - the state has been granted authority by God and is but a sword in the hand. I concur.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"I, nor the Bible, proscribe killing a disobedient child."

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 (King James Version)

18If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: 19Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; 20And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. 21And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

You both do, you just go to great lengths to explain that the "child" is an adult, thus not a child.

I am my parent's oldest son, by many, many years an adult.

I've never ceased being their child.

You and the Bible advocate parents killing their children for the transgression of being rebellious.

[Conservative Coulter Fan]

Yes, means but one thing - yes. So why do you persist chasing me down for I haven't avoided the question. How else can I make it any clearer??

[Mr. Brightside]

Consider yourself warned..

You want to kill me, too?

[Mr. Brightside]

extreme circumstances require extreme actions

Is Eric Rudolph a hero or a criminal?

[Nowhere Man]

He may have advocated it in specific situations to some people, but he did not give a blanket command to destroy the unrighteous. In fact, if you ever get around to reading the words of Jesus, you'll find out that we are commanded to love those who persecute us, as this is the best way to spread God's love to others.

Well, it is our jobto do the best we can be trying to convince sinners to turn to the righteous path. You cannot do that by calling them names, executing them or using the Bible as a weapon, but to show them that God loves and give up their sins as part of that love. I know homosexuality is an abomination, will they automatically go to Hell when they die, I don't know, that is something to take up with God Himself.

As much as we wish we could, we will never get everybody to stop sinning, people are going to do what they are going to do and in the case of homosexuality, as long as they don't shove their agenda on the nation and keep it in the bedroom (like we all should) then they should be left alone and live their lives, get jobs (as long as their homosexuality can't be used against them such as a top secret job where the enemy can blackmail them), and so on like the rest of us. If they just want to live their lives, fine, but when it comes to forcing their agenda, that is a different thing all together.

[Billthedrill]

What you are trying to do is make myself and Coulter Fan look as though we are going to go out the front door, wielding a samurai sword looking for homosexuals, when NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.

I'm not trying to do anything but find out whether you and Coulter Fan advocate that the state execute people for homosexual practice. That is a very straightforward and simple question and both you and he/she have evaded it, avoided it, equivocated your answers, split hairs, sent Scripture instead of committing yourselves, anything but be honest about it. I find this sort of conversation very frustrating, frankly.

Let me do something you and he/she will not do - be open and honest and give a straightforward answer unencumbered by squirming or deception. I do not think that the state should execute people for homosexual practice.

Is that so difficult?

[Conservative Coulter Fan]

Should people disobey God...do you have any idea who God is...I'm not referring to John Lennon...I'm referring to the creator of the heavens and the earth.

[Billthedrill]

Yes, means but one thing - yes.

THANK YOU. Forgive me for thinking you had not said yes when both you and I thought that you had.

[Conservative Coulter Fan]

I am certain that you and I have an understanding, but for all this complaining and posturing, I'm at a loss to explain why the others are hostile..

[Luis Gonzalez]

It's s simple question, just answer it.

Should people who work on the Sabbath be killed?

Why are you afraid of answering me?

[Mr. Brightside]

If I agree to let you murder homosexuals and abortionists, then should I also let anti-war activists kill American GIs? How about letting the Earth First clan kill corporate polluters?

Or do you get special permission?

[Conservative Coulter Fan]

The commandment, "thou shalt not kill," correctly translated from Hebrew reads, "thou shall not murder." The Bible distinguishes war, neglegent homicide, self-defense, murder, etc. from each other. The problem is that you read it in isolation - if the Bible were but one verse - thou shalt not kill - then you might have a case to make, but you just as the commandment is located in Exodus, Chapter 20, merely a chapter later (21) Moses proscribes the death penalty for a variety of offenses. Indeed, Moses proscribes the death penalty in Deuteronomy.

[Luis Gonzalez]

By the way, don't concern yourself with my relationship with my God, it's none of your concern, it's mine and His alone.

Now, answer my question.