The scrambling continues

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0306AAAS.asp | March 6, 2006

[Tim Long]

Evolutionists, they never learn.

[Tim Long]

Six Days Ping

[OSHA]

[Izzy Dunne]

what generally happens when a discovery contradicts a paradigm: the paradigm is not discarded but modified.

Imagine that. Scientists actually changing their theories to account for observations.

[cchandler]

Doesn't the fact that this is the only known fossil to contain soft tissue -- out of the millions of discovered fossils from the era -- prove that this is indeed an incredibly spectacular find? I think it does more to support the 65 million year rule than the creationist interpretation. If the creationist theories were correct, then wouldn't we be finding lots of soft tissue among the fossils?

Please don't Larry Summers me, I'm just engaging in friendly debate.

[mlc9852]

How long does soft tissue survive?

[Coyoteman]

Doesn't the fact that this is the only known fossil to contain soft tissue -- out of the millions of discovered fossils from the era -- prove that this is indeed an incredibly spectacular find? I think it does more to support the 65 million year rule than the creationist interpretation. If the creationist theories were correct, then wouldn't we be finding lots of soft tissue among the fossils?

Doesn't work that way.

If you are trying to bash science, the tiniest inconsistency is "proof" that all of science is wrong.

If you are trying to support a religious belief, on the other hand, the tiniest bit of data is "proof" that all of science is wrong.

[mlc9852]

But I guess soft tissue doesn't normally survive 65 millions years, right?

[ikka]

When are they going to clone it?

[taxesareforever]

Doesn't work that way.

You mean, "doesn't work YOUR way".

[PreciousLiberty]

"But I guess soft tissue doesn't normally survive 65 millions years, right?"

Judging from the state of other dinosaur fossils, usually not.

You might want to start your own experiment, I'd suggest heating some meat/bone in a sealed container to kill germs (this must have happened in the dino sample as well, and it stayed sterile somehow). Just break open your container after 65 million years and see what happened!

[wolfcreek]

There's probably a lab somewhere with a bunch of little T-Rexs' running around. The temptation is just too great.

[From many - one.]

Check back to see if thread evolves or putrefies.

[11Bush]

There's probably a lab somewhere with a bunch of little T-Rexs' running around.

If it's like the miniature Doberman, that's ok. If not....

[Coyoteman]

There's probably a lab somewhere with a bunch of little T-Rexs' running around.

If it's like the miniature Doberman, that's ok. If not....

Think of a great white shark with the speed of a dirtbike, the agility of a scared chicken, and the size of a small house.

And the appetite of a black hole.

And the disposition of a rabid piranha.

(As a house pet they would leave something to be desired.)

[2nsdammit]

"Evolutionists, they never learn."

Creationists, they never tell the truth.

Well, as usual, this evidence (if true, and not mis-interpreted) is being mis-applied (lied about?)....

http://www.ncsu.edu/news/press_releases/06_02/026.htm

'“Now that we’ve seen the same structures preserved in all these different samples, we need to ask ourselves how they were preserved – what happened to essentially convert organic materials from the living state to what they are now – and if any original molecular components remain,” says Schweitzer.'

In other words, there is no "soft tissue" preserved - there are fossilized structures which mirror the form of the original soft tissue. The question is, how were these structures fossilized?

Here we see the fundamental difference between scientists and ID'ers, or creationists. The scientist observes a phenomenon not noticed before, and immediately begins to try to figure out the details of how this occurred. In the process, knowledge will be furthered in the sciences of chemistry, probably physics, certainly biology and paleontology. The creationist hears of a phenomenon not heretofore observed, and immediately leaps to the conclusion that the entire time scale is off, "the flood" obviously occurred, men and dinosaurs walked around together (etc, etc...).

[2nsdammit]

The report by Dr. Schweitzer, et. al:

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/307/5717/1952

[forsnax5]

As a house pet they would leave something to be desired.

Looks like the angels thought so, too:

"God's angels protected Noah's Ark from being damaged by any of the panicing dinosaurs that might have stampeded towards the Ark!"

-- Jim Pinkoski