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The Rage Game, Putting On The brakes
Islamicity ^ | 3/4/2006 | Imam Abu Laith Luqman Ahmad

Posted on 03/06/2006 6:54:15 AM PST by Eurotwit

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1 posted on 03/06/2006 6:54:17 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: nuconvert

Interesting views from an imam.

Cheers.


2 posted on 03/06/2006 6:55:02 AM PST by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Eurotwit

The islamists are using "fake rage" just like the liberals do in our country regarding all things conservative. The islamists must be reading the NY Times and learning.


3 posted on 03/06/2006 6:58:48 AM PST by pissant
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To: Eurotwit
Perhaps we're suffering from post traumatic stress disorder at the loss of the caliphate

Can you believe this? What century is this, Ahmad ?! These people are reality-challenged psychotics, the whole bunch of them. (And this lovely American Imam was trying to be diplomatic !) .

4 posted on 03/06/2006 7:03:13 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Eurotwit

Very good! Good points, sarcastic, funny.
Thanks for the ping!




(btw - what do you think about Ms Verdonk?)


5 posted on 03/06/2006 7:04:47 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Eurotwit

Here's another article by him.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16118


6 posted on 03/06/2006 7:15:58 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Valin; zimdog; odds; E Rocc

pong


7 posted on 03/06/2006 7:19:42 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert

Unusual to such a viewpoint expressed in such a way at Islamicity.

About Verdonk:

Not sure. I haven't followed her closely enough to make a good judgment. Anyhow...

She is trying to get a handle on a set of very tough issues. Some of what she has done has been couragous and right. Other stuff have been way over the top: Like the talk about outlawing anything, but Dutch being spoken in the streets.

She has been shot at. At any rate her office has. Perhaps, she should have higher priorities with the militants and fundantalists, than with gay Iranians. Then again, from what I am reading, Amsterdam seems to already be getting pretty unsafe for gays as it is.

Perhaps, she is getting carried away by her "Iron Rita" nickname.

What do you think?


8 posted on 03/06/2006 7:20:03 AM PST by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Eurotwit

You might be interested in this article, too.

"I'll have a multifaith Danish (with lavish sprinkles of tolerance, respect and humor)"

http://www.muslimwakeup.com/main/archives/2006/02/ill_have_a_mult.php#more


9 posted on 03/06/2006 7:29:13 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Eurotwit

This guy is sane. I would like to know his bio. Will any of his fellow muslims hear him?


10 posted on 03/06/2006 7:30:37 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: nuconvert

I LOVE IT!!!


Ms Verdonk?


11 posted on 03/06/2006 7:35:09 AM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: Valin

Verdonk....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1589836/posts

BTW - check out the link in #6 too


12 posted on 03/06/2006 7:42:25 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Dudoight

I think he was born in Philadelphia to muslim parents


13 posted on 03/06/2006 7:43:40 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Eurotwit

"What do you think?"

Verdonk not only thinks it's perfectly safe to send gay's back to Iran, but also to send converted christians back.
She's dangerous, sounds like a biogot and should lose her job.


14 posted on 03/06/2006 7:46:08 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert

The first word that comes to mind is....insane.


15 posted on 03/06/2006 7:49:53 AM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: Dudoight
I would like to know his bio.

If he doesn't have good security, his bio is probably close to its endpoint....

16 posted on 03/06/2006 7:51:30 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: nuconvert; Valin

From Wikipedia:

Policy
Verdonk has proposed the following plans, that have raised controversy:

In order to reduce migration because of marriage, she has proposed that partners of Dutch citizens are only allowed to immigrate into the Netherlands if the Dutch partner earns more than 130% of the minimum income.

She refused to grant pardon to 26,000 asylum seekers who lived in the Netherlands for over 5 years but who were not be granted asylum.

To integrate migrants into the Dutch society, every person who wants to immigrate into the Netherlands must have passed an integration test. It tests knowledge of the Dutch language, political system and social conventions. The test must be taken before entering the Netherlands, preferably in a Dutch Embassy in the country of origin. "Oudkomers", migrants who have lived in the Netherlands for a long time, but are not "integrated", are also requested to take the exam.

She was called to parliament for the following issues:

In October 2005, the Immigration & Naturalisation Services provided information to refugees home-countries about asylum requests. This risked that when refugees were denied and send back to their homecountry (in this case Congo) they could possibly be tortured by their government, but no proof of this was provided by any party. Verdonk maintains that no sensitive information was transferred [1] in accordance with the findings of a special committee (Commissie Havermans) [2].

In December 2005, a cell-complex for denied refugees at Amsterdam airport burned down, 11 refugees died, surviving refugees reported that they had to wait more than 45 minutes before released from their cell. Verdonk stated before investigation on the fire was completed that prison workers handled adequately under the circumstances.

As a minister Verdonk has proposed the following, without it becoming policy yet:

In October 2005 Verdonk proposed a ban on Muslim women wearing the burka in public places, on the grounds that the burka, which covers the face, is a security risk since suicide bombers could use it as a disguise.

She also cancelled a meeting with Dutch Muslim leaders when some of them wouldn't shake hands with her, being a woman. She has said that "the time for cosy tea-drinking" Muslim groups had passed.

In January 2006, Verdonk proposed the adoption of a national code of conduct, listing the most important conventions of Dutch society, to facilitate the integration of migrants. She was inspired by a similar initiative undertaken by the Rotterdam municipality.

Upon receiving Dutch citizenship, immigrants would have to be able to sing the national anthem, the Wilhelmus.

In March 2006, Verdonk proposed to send homosexual asylum seekers from Iran back because they are no longer prosecuted, despite the fact that acts of homosexual acts are still punishable by death. Note that homosexuality in itself is not punishable by death sentence in Iran.


17 posted on 03/06/2006 7:51:37 AM PST by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Eurotwit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_Verdonk


18 posted on 03/06/2006 7:52:04 AM PST by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Eurotwit

She's a dangerous menace, and should be relieved of her duties.


19 posted on 03/06/2006 8:07:33 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Eurotwit
We only know what the media tells us, and it seems like our collective responses are so scripted and choreographed, we might as well get paid for it and become members of the screen actors guild.

A perceptive remark

20 posted on 03/06/2006 8:11:34 AM PST by agere_contra
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