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Bush to propose line-item veto legislation
News Sentinel ^ | March 5, 2006

Posted on 03/05/2006 7:25:48 PM PST by santorumlite

Posted on Sun, Mar. 05, 2006 Bush to propose line-item veto legislation

WASHINGTON - President Bush plans to send proposed legislation to Congress on Monday that would allow him to control spending by vetoing specific items in larger bills, a Bush administration official said. The president, who has not vetoed any legislation during five years in office, asked Congress in his State of the Union address to give him line-item veto power. Bush plans to announce that the proposed bill is headed to Congress during his remarks at the morning swearing-in ceremony for the chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the announcement has not been made. Both Republican and Democratic presidents have sought the power to eliminate a single item in a spending or tax bill without killing the entire measure. President Clinton got that wish in 1996, when the new reform-minded Republican majority in the House helped pass a line-item veto law. Two years later, the Supreme Court declared the law unconstitutional because it violated the principle that Congress, and not the executive branch, holds the power of the purse.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2006agenda; ineitemveto
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Last time the supremes because of clinton's two picks rejected it 6-3.

At best it would still be 5-4 against, still needing stevens to step down.

If Bush had this power he could reject a lot of the earmarks like the bridge in alaska.

Clinton's two ultra liberal supreme court picks hurt bush bad here. But Clinton will never get any blame.

1 posted on 03/05/2006 7:25:49 PM PST by santorumlite
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To: santorumlite
If it was unconstitutional two years ago, what's changed?

Not the Constitution.

2 posted on 03/05/2006 7:29:32 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: santorumlite
I agree with the original court decision. I think a Constitutional Amendment is in order. I wish they would propose it as such.
3 posted on 03/05/2006 7:30:03 PM PST by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus.)
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To: santorumlite

Two years later, the Supreme Court declared the law unconstitutional because it violated the principle that Congress, and not the executive branch, holds the power of the purse.



Based on a lot of comments on FR you'd think the Preident is totally responsible for enacting the legislation authorizing the budget and its funding each year...


4 posted on 03/05/2006 7:39:53 PM PST by deport
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To: deport


Precisely.


5 posted on 03/05/2006 7:40:46 PM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: santorumlite

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh, Bush has never vetoed a bill. Not even the unconstitutional blather of CFR.


6 posted on 03/05/2006 7:44:06 PM PST by jeremiah (The biggest threat to Americas survival today, meth usage.)
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President Bush plans to send proposed legislation to Congress on Monday that would allow him to control spending by vetoing specific items in larger bills

Ha ha ha. What for? He has had plenty of opportunities to apply a veto and didn't use it. Why now? What a joke. Just an excuse by him for all the spending.

7 posted on 03/05/2006 7:45:18 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: santorumlite

While Carter was our most incompetent President, Gerry Ford was the dumbest ... and he left John Paul Stevens as a lasting reminder.

The election of '76 - hold your nose and vote for Ford.


8 posted on 03/05/2006 7:49:32 PM PST by BW2221
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To: santorumlite

The horse is already out of the barn on spending. Neither party will take it seriously, nor should they. The responsibility is on congress to put forth reasonble legislation in the first place, or a president to veto the whole mess if it isn't.


9 posted on 03/05/2006 7:50:44 PM PST by quantim (If the Constitution were perfect, it wouldn't have included the Senate.)
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To: santorumlite

You don't think Alito and Roberts would reject it?

You ask for strict constructionists, that's what you get.


10 posted on 03/05/2006 7:52:14 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: BW2221

Uh, is the White House even explaining how this is different from Clinton's attempt? Because otherwise, Bush is just asking for history to repeat itself.


11 posted on 03/05/2006 7:52:18 PM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Dog Gone
What has the Constitution had to do with any Supreme Court (or Federal Court) decision during the past 50 years?

The only good thing Warren or Blackmum did for the country was die.
12 posted on 03/05/2006 7:52:24 PM PST by BW2221
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This is a story that should have been written years ago.

How about a retroactive veto so Bush can roll back all the stupid stuff like the drug program that was not needed and the gazillion dollars to Africa and other countries?

13 posted on 03/05/2006 7:53:06 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Jack Bauer: "By the time I'm finished with you you're going to wish you felt this good again".)
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To: BW2221
Gerry Ford was the dumbest

At least Ford knew how to use the veto pen. Remember he told NYC to drop dead.

14 posted on 03/05/2006 7:56:18 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're Americans, we can do anything)
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If he's not proposing an amendment, then he's just wasting time. What's the point?


15 posted on 03/05/2006 7:56:30 PM PST by kenth (Phil! Phil Connors! I thought that was you!)
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To: santorumlite

One way that might get this thing to pass constitutional muster would be to give the President the power to line item veto something out of a bill and then send the bill directly back to congress for a fair up or down vote. No committee reviews, no chances for poison pills, no modifications by members of congress to kill the bill.

Give debate on the floor of each house for the modified bill (no filibusters) and then give the bill a stright up or down majority rules vote. After that send the bill back to the President to sign. Ultimately Congress would still have the final say on any spending and keep the balence of power in Congress for spending measures.

What something like this could do is bring some of the waistful spending out in the open and force politicians to explain some of these pork barrel projects (or let them die in the revote.)


16 posted on 03/05/2006 8:05:26 PM PST by Honcho
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To: jeremiah

His first MAJOR eff up.


17 posted on 03/05/2006 8:37:31 PM PST by Atchafalaya (When you're there, that's the best!!)
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To: deport

"Two years later, the Supreme Court declared the law unconstitutional because it violated the principle that Congress, and not the executive branch, holds the power of the purse."

You want to know what the difference is now? My congressman(WI Paul Ryan, R), is actually one of the people involved with writing this new legislation. Our congressman actually told us about this new proposal yesterday at our county caucus.

This is what he told us.

The new law will allow the President to veto a particular line item, hand that line item back to the Congress for another vote, and then pass the rest of the original bill.

Remember the "Bridge to Nowhere"? The President could actually just veto that one line item and hand it back to the Congress and make them pass that particular line all by itself. Basically, the "Bridge to Nowhere" type items would be exposed to America, and then the Congress still makes the decision on whether on not the pass the individual line item. Congress would still be making the final decision on spending, as the Constitution requires, but all of the pork barrell projects would be exposed to America, and then that "Bridge to Nowhere" type items would have to pass a congressional vote on it's own, not piggybacked on the back of important legislation.

This time- the line item veto may actually work. Congress would still control spending, but the President can then expose these huge pork spending projects. Technically, the President is not really vetoing anything- he is just forcing congress to justify the pork projects to America and cast a new vote on a particular line item!





18 posted on 03/05/2006 9:05:40 PM PST by KCRW
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Sorry- Honcho, I did not see your post and posting something simular myself.

I found out about this new bill, just yesterday. I believe it can work this time. Right now, I will take anything that will expose the pork projects to the American people and get them stopped.


19 posted on 03/05/2006 9:09:00 PM PST by KCRW
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To: isthisnickcool
How about a retroactive veto so Bush can roll back all the stupid stuff like the drug program that was not needed and the gazillion dollars to Africa and other countries?

Africa is a country?


This is a ch__ch. What's missing?

20 posted on 03/05/2006 9:25:59 PM PST by rdb3 (What it is is what it was.)
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