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Mexico blasts bills to tax money illegal immigrants wire home
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 3/5/2006 | Greg Brosnan

Posted on 03/05/2006 12:15:18 PM PST by bkwells

MEXICO CITY – Mexican officials are complaining that a bill in Georgia's state legislature to tax the hundreds of millions of dollars that illegal immigrants wire home would unfairly hurt Mexicans working north of the border.

Sponsored by Republican lawmakers who charge that illegal immigrants use basic health and education services without contributing to them, the bill would force anyone unable to prove their legal status to pay tax on their wire transfers.

Mexicans living in the United States sent home about $20 billion to their families last year, more than all the foreign direct investment in the country and a major pillar of Mexico's economy, especially in poor areas.

Similar to a bill in Arizona's legislature, the Georgia measure has passed the state's lower house and is awaiting review in its Senate.

“The recently approved initiative . . . is unjust because it discriminates against people of Hispanic origin in general and Mexicans in particular,” Mexico's Foreign Ministry said.

The Foreign Ministry said it also was following the Arizona bill's progress and could take legal action should either proposal become law.

Finance Minister Francisco Gil slammed the bills last week, and a migrant representative said it was a foolhardy attack on workers he said were helping the economies of both countries.

“Unfortunately, this is a trend,” said Candido Morales, director of an institute for Mexicans living abroad. “Making life difficult for people who aren't legal, but who contribute to both the U.S. and Mexican economies.

While Georgia's bill would only tax illegal immigrants, Arizona's would tax all wire transfers out of the country.

Critics say that the laws would be ineffective, and that migrants would simply ship money home by less secure means.

Supporters of the bills in Georgia and Arizona argue that something must be done to salvage revenue from hundreds of millions of dollars they say slip out of their states untaxed.

“The reality is that a tremendous amount of undocumented illegal immigrants are in this country earing money and not paying any taxes,” said Rep. Calvin Hill, a Georgia Republican who sponsored his state's bill.

“They are utilizing the vast resources of the state but not financially contributing in any way,” said Hill, who estimated $1 billion was leaving the state every year in untaxed remittances from illegal immigrants alone.

Arizona officials said the money could beef up security along its border with Mexico. Hill said it would go into Georgia's indigent health care and education which illegal immigrants often use themselves.

“Now for the first time these people will have an opportunity to partially pay for these services,” Hill said. “This has nothing to do with being against immigrants.”

The Mexican-born population living in the United States is 9.9 million, according to figured cited by the Mexican Embassy in Washington.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; americanfools; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; feedtheworld; foreignaid; giantsuckingsound; illegalaliens; illegals; invasionusa; mexicopolitics; racecard; taxesthegringo; taxwhitey; vincentefox
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To: Mamzelle

Bonjour, Mamzelle!

I do believe you were the first to float this idea on FR nearly a year ago.

Congratulations.


21 posted on 03/05/2006 12:30:18 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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To: HiJinx
It's a step- a step, mind you- in the right direction.

Those "money-changin' stores are popping up like weeds in my county, car wrecks with presumed illegal aliens ( usually can't find out, because they abandon the car and scatter )- are commonplace, and parts of my old Southern town look like Little Tiajuana.

We need to do better. At least Georgia is finally addressing one of the problems. We had to boot the Democrats to do it, remember.

22 posted on 03/05/2006 12:33:44 PM PST by backhoe
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To: Uhhuh35

But the plan isn't to single out the illegals - it's for all wire money transfers. So it's a tax on the service as far as I can tell. Unless they plan to ask for citizenship proof and won't tax those people.


23 posted on 03/05/2006 12:36:06 PM PST by Serenissima Venezia (U.S. a 3rd world soon: not educating enough scientists/engineers and being invaded by illegals)
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To: HiJinx
They're doing it in Georgia!(beam)

You can bet SC, Bama, Tenn will follow. NC won't for a while.

Needs to be for all immigrants, however. If the money leaves, it hurts our economy. Taxes generally hurt, but this is one that'll help.

Let Ga use it to help pay for all the incarcerated aliens.

24 posted on 03/05/2006 12:36:44 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: bkwells
The Foreign Ministry said it also was following the Arizona bill's progress and could take legal action should either proposal become law.

Grande cajones for thinking they have any say in the matter. What they don't seem to understand is that by meddling in our governmental affairs they are only strengthening the resolve of those of us who are determined to control this crisis.

The Mexican-born population living in the United States is 9.9 million, according to figured cited by the Mexican Embassy in Washington.

That means the real figure is probably north of 20 million. What a bunch of corrupt liars.
25 posted on 03/05/2006 12:37:53 PM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!!)
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To: bkwells

So, at what point is the distinction between an "illegal" alien and a legal resident made when it comes to money transfers, and who checks on an individual's immigration status at the point of purchase for the money transfer service?

This is a hidden tax on all money transfers being sold as a patriotic move to "punish" illegal aliens.

In the end, everyone transferring money will be taxed.

"Government in not the solution to the problem, government is the problem." -- Ronald Reagan


26 posted on 03/05/2006 12:38:14 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Uhhuh35

It's the transfer that's being taxed--just like taxing a hamburger.


27 posted on 03/05/2006 12:38:36 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: bkwells

Tax'em then send'em home.


28 posted on 03/05/2006 12:41:37 PM PST by right right
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To: Luis Gonzalez
re: In the end, everyone transferring money will be taxed. )))

OK by me. I wish this was what GA was doing, but maybe it'll happen yet.

In my little town, there are three new tiendas selling "evios dinero"--it'd do my state a lot of good to help pay for incarcerations, ERs, schools, uninsured motor wrecks, etc...

29 posted on 03/05/2006 12:43:07 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Uhhuh35
And the disease is spreading to the rest of the US

No Pun Intended

30 posted on 03/05/2006 12:44:50 PM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: bkwells
Mexican officials are complaining

Gee, imagine that.

Screw all you politicians and 'officials' all over the world, I for one am sick of you.

31 posted on 03/05/2006 12:46:09 PM PST by Looking4Truth (The U.S. knows the rest of the world is damn near useless and we're sick of carrying their asses!)
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To: HiJinx; Spiff; idratherbepainting; AZHSer; Sabertooth; Marine Inspector; A Navy Vet; ...
Sounds like our good fiends south of the border are afraid of losing a cash cow...

Got that SPOT ON!!!

32 posted on 03/05/2006 12:47:04 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Mamzelle

So, you are in favor of higher taxes for no reason whatsoever then?

Because taxing everyone does nothing to stop your tiendas or the reason why they are there.


33 posted on 03/05/2006 12:47:10 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: SandRat

Bingo.


34 posted on 03/05/2006 12:47:39 PM PST by TXBSAFH (Proud Dad of Twins, What Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger!!!!!!)
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To: bkwells; adam_az; airborne; Arthur Wildfire! March; B4Ranch; backhoe; Blowtorch; Brilliant; ...

Interesting concept; it soould be advanced.


35 posted on 03/05/2006 12:48:02 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: wolfcreek
...they're total dependents.

Reminds me of my newly revised tag line. :-)

Shameless self-promotion bump.

36 posted on 03/05/2006 12:48:23 PM PST by Looking4Truth (The U.S. knows the rest of the world is damn near useless and we're sick of carrying their asses!)
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To: sully777

VA LA ARENA DE LA LIBRA (sort of) :-)


37 posted on 03/05/2006 12:49:42 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: backhoe

We have a Republican majority in the Legislature here in Arizona, too.


38 posted on 03/05/2006 12:50:17 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
re: So, you are in favor of higher taxes for no reason whatsoever then? )))

The reason is revenue.--

39 posted on 03/05/2006 12:50:19 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Howlin

What chance of this in the Tar Heel state?


40 posted on 03/05/2006 12:52:27 PM PST by Mamzelle
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