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HB 2107
THE ACADEMIC FREEDOM ACT

http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/2005-06HB/HB2107_int.rtf

"Every public school teacher in the State of Oklahoma, shall have the affirmative right and freedom to present scientific information pertaining to the full range of scientific views in any curricula or course of learning.... The rights and privileges contained in the Academic Freedom Act apply when topics are taught that may generate controversy, such as biological or chemical origins of life." (etc.)

1 posted on 03/05/2006 10:14:07 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: Junior

Archive.


2 posted on 03/05/2006 10:18:39 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

All those against evolution - raise your tails ant throw a coconut at the vote counter. 77 coconuts.


3 posted on 03/05/2006 10:23:54 AM PST by GSlob
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

What process or mechanism required by evolution has not been observed?


6 posted on 03/05/2006 10:28:21 AM PST by js1138 (</I>)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

They better watch out! A federal judge has decided there is NO FREEDOM for local school districts to set curriculum.


11 posted on 03/05/2006 10:37:19 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Just what in the heck are they thinking???

"EVOLUTION" is a proven thing. Just ask some of the people here on FR...who will gladly point out that those who ask questions....who have some doubt about "EVOLUTION"....are really stupid.

redrock

16 posted on 03/05/2006 10:56:23 AM PST by redrock ("How God Created us...I have no real Idea. Telling God how He 'has to do things'...is not my way")
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Public schools are failures because only a few parents absolutely demand a teaching curriculum geared to success in this world.......Darwin vs Creationism is now at the fore....Chemistry, math, and physics are secondary.....Just too pathetic!!!

Teachers are unskilled in their art, classrooms have little discipline, and subjects such as ebonics, new math, and phonetic spelling have taken over. The teacher's unions love this as they get more tax money and better salaries and benefits.

17 posted on 03/05/2006 11:06:33 AM PST by pop-gun
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
God bless OK's legislature.

But of course if this legislation forces OK's public schools to allow an alternative to the Darwin theory into the classrooms, the courts will strike it down before a single child can be told that the theory of evolution is only a theory and not a scientifically provable fact. If the Darwinists are so certain of their theory, why is it that they fight so fiercely to keep even the slightest mention of an alternative theory from being presented to America's school kids?

I was taught in public grade school 60 years ago that Columbus was the first European to reach America, but many people believed that Norsemen from Iceland reached it before he did. If a teacher had wanted to offer both theories of America's discovery as theories and not provable fact I'm quite certain that the courts would not have interfered, nor would they today. Why then should an unproven theory about the origin of life be granted immunity from challenge from an alternative unproven theory, while an unproven theory about the discovery of America would not be immune to a similar challenge? Could it be that Darwinists are afraid that their beloved theory may not be fully accepted as incontrovertible fact by the next generation, and therefore a belief in a Creator God will continue to influence the beliefs and morals of society in a way that is repugnant to their atheistic or agnostic beliefs?

As long as atheists and agnostics can convince themselves and their contemporaries that there is no real, living, personal, divine Creator who has established moral laws and precepts for his creation to live by, they can act on their immoral sexual impulses without guilt or fear of punishment. I'm not saying that all or even most Darwinists are of that mind, but I believe it was the famous Darwinist Aldous Huxley who publicly acknowledged that very thing as being one important reason for his own belief in evolution.

32 posted on 03/05/2006 12:20:51 PM PST by epow
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Its author, Rep. Sally Kern, R-Oklahoma City, said evolution is taught in some classrooms as if it were scientific fact although the theory, developed in the 19th century by Charles Darwin, is neither observable, repeatable or testable...

Assuming, for the sake of arguement, that that is correct then where is intelligent design observable, repeatable or testable?

50 posted on 03/05/2006 12:53:39 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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Interesting, if one thinks we have outsourcing of jobs now wait 20 years. Science will be less than a memory.

Something like this.

Employer; Jr., this is your area of expertise, we just had a plane that crashed (fact). There is some evidence (cable was found broke) that the cable to the tail flap failed. Would you test (empirical evidence) the cable for strength and if and why it failed. Then could you furnish a written document explaining (explanation of facts) why or why not the broken cable was the cause of the crash for next weeks board meeting. Jr; Sir, I already have the explanation. I studied alternative opinion science and the scientific method has been shorten since your education. I have the documentation explaining the fact. God did it!!! I wrote it while we were speaking. Pretty smart huh??? Now about that raise.......

61 posted on 03/05/2006 1:48:47 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Another state looking to make a big payout to aggrieved parents and ACLU lawyers. Well, "A fool and his money..." and so on.


63 posted on 03/05/2006 1:55:13 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
"Do you think you come from a monkeyman?"

As a YEC, I can only hope that's a misquote.

76 posted on 03/05/2006 3:19:18 PM PST by Tim Long (I spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

The democrat controlled senate will likely vote down the bill. However, in the next election the Republicans are definitely going to oust some term limited senators and then both houses will be in Republican hands. Good things ahead for Oklahoma!


111 posted on 03/05/2006 8:09:54 PM PST by Doctor Don
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

I have come up with a theory, supported by much evidence:

Conservatives evolve. Liberals devolve.

Debate solved.

;-)


150 posted on 03/06/2006 6:12:05 AM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Critics said the lessons would be more appropriate in religion or philosophy classes than in science class.

If I recall correctly, I was taught that the various major fields of science traced their roots to philosophy.

300 posted on 03/08/2006 9:20:02 AM PST by connectthedots
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

I'll solve the Evolution Vs Creation debate right here and now.

Some of you would argue that Bill Clinton descended from an Ape..

Some would say that John Kerry descended also from some sort of lower life form.

Some will agree that Kennedy likewise had ancestors that crawled out of Pond Scum.

But I defy any of you to say that GW Bush or Ronald Reagan descended from Apes ;).


306 posted on 03/08/2006 10:37:40 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
[ the Oklahoma House passed a bill Thursday encouraging schools to expose students to alternative views about the origin of life. ]

AND who is it that will literally FORCE the NEA to adopt this new "law".. The Teachers Unions and school administrations might fire or discourage any NEA member from following thru..

NO!!.. its no brainer, they WILL discourage any member from following thru on this.. On the other hand class action suits can provide much entertainment.. because the OK NEA will not take this lieing down.. but bending over..

358 posted on 03/12/2006 8:52:20 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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