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La-Legal.com ^ | March 3, 2006 | sard0nicpan

Posted on 03/05/2006 7:43:52 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad

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"Re: Rights? I don't need no stinking Rights! " ======================================================

I am p.o'd to the max. All last week CBSnews radio has been hammering the AP video story that (Bush did nothing while people died) in the New Orleans area. I guess the mayoral elections have started.

Now one of their minions has started posting on one of my favorite discussoin sites. The moderator will not remove the man's stupid Bush bashing response - so I need to respond to it.

All ideas (in a manner that will not get me banned) on how to respond to this are welcome.

1 posted on 03/05/2006 7:43:55 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Pikachu_Dad
The right to post hysterical vanities?
That's my favorite!

Minor despots in areas like the EPA, the EQA, or even HOAs across the country are more immediate and fundamental threats, and have no name to realize that they are there.

Those are the ones I truly fear:

A farmer runs over a mouse while plowing his field? Off to jail he goes...

2 posted on 03/05/2006 7:51:03 AM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Pikachu_Dad
He seems to have forgotten the main rights:
the right to remain silent
the right to speak to an attorney
the right to have an attorney present...

Just what did they expect the President to do in NO? Go down there with a bucket?

3 posted on 03/05/2006 7:52:03 AM PST by SouthTexas
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To: SouthTexas

The "rights" were in response to that stupid Reuters article saying that more Americans know the Simpsons than their first amendments rights.


4 posted on 03/05/2006 7:55:43 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: SouthTexas
Just what did they expect the President to do in NO? Go down there with a bucket?

Yes.

To which the ONLY appropriate response, it seems, is this:

"Nice Going, F.A.G."

Cheers!

5 posted on 03/05/2006 7:56:35 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Publius6961

"A farmer runs over a mouse while plowing his field? Off to jail he goes..."

But it was the last of the famous trembling, white haired, short eared, three legged mice...

Now - help direct me to some links on postiive information of President Bush. Lets start with his college career. Yale and Havard.


6 posted on 03/05/2006 7:58:25 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Pikachu_Dad
I know. ;)

It just seemed with the mentality of the question, these "rights" would be more appropriate.

7 posted on 03/05/2006 8:01:33 AM PST by SouthTexas
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To: Pikachu_Dad

P.S. This was the source of the Reuters article.
http://www.mccormicktribune.org/mccormickmuseum/pdf/Survey_Results_Report.pdf

The McCormic Tribune Museum - First Amendment Rights. (You would think that they would focus on all ten rights? No?)


8 posted on 03/05/2006 8:01:46 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: grey_whiskers

ROFLMAO!


9 posted on 03/05/2006 8:02:24 AM PST by SouthTexas
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To: SouthTexas

Forget the rights and Skip down to where he starts Bush Bashing.


10 posted on 03/05/2006 8:02:47 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Pikachu_Dad

This man's politics are to the left of Michael Moore - yet he professes to be a 'Republican'. Go figure.


11 posted on 03/05/2006 8:03:44 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Pikachu_Dad
I know, it's getting redundant. No matter what the leftists "cause of the day" may be, it always denigrates into overall Bush bashing. From the "lack of WMDs" to Halliburton, to Katrina, blood for oil, the 2000 election....

And the media wonders why they have no readers? D'OH!
Couldn't resist that.

12 posted on 03/05/2006 8:08:44 AM PST by SouthTexas
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To: SouthTexas

Its extremely redundant.

My hot button is that they are trying to spin that the President did nothing while people died in New Orleans - and that he said he did not know about it in advance.

Complete, utter rubbish.

Bush insisted on a mandatory evac of New Orleans.


13 posted on 03/05/2006 8:16:49 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Pikachu_Dad
Of course, it's been over six months, now it's time to rewrite history! I'm sure they have figured most have forgotten pertinent facts already, so they can spin to their heart's content.

We do have archives and a seemingly endless, thanks Jim, supply of data. Here is a link to the Katrina threads that have a pretty solid time line built right in.
FreeRepublic

It works wonders in other areas too! :)

14 posted on 03/05/2006 8:35:07 AM PST by SouthTexas
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To: SouthTexas

Great. That's a big part of what I was looking for. FreeRepublic is wonderful. Most of the news-sites ditch this stuff after a few weeks.

Now what I need help finding are some of the links to the old articles on the other old recycled crap.

I started with his academic career... but was getting lost in the liberal wallowing on the net.

Excellent pictures are worth a thousand words. Thinking on that I should probably go to the BUSH presidency posts. Those are a daily log...


Initial outline based on his last rant.

A. His career and life
1. Academic Career.
Yale
Harvard

to rebut(A mediocre academic career at elite institutions marked by winks, nudges and gentlemen’s C’s.)
2. National Guard duty
Response to Mary Mapes bash.
to rebut(A questionable ending to his military career with the National Guard (a sweetheart deal compared to his generation) marked by allegations of desertion or at least the failure to account for certain components of missing time.
3. Drug and alcohol abuse

to rebut (—but of course he had friends in high places, so he has never had to account for this portion of his life.)

4. Business

to rebut (Repeated failures in business always bailed out by the money of others.

5. Presidency
Vaction history

to rebut
(A presidency marked by
prolonged vacations,)

9/11 response

to rebut
(intelligence failures prior to 9/11,
a vacuous public response to 9/11
(5-7 minutes of sitting in front of children trying to appear “Calm” according to the 9/11 commission report).)


IRAQ War

to rebut
(Don’t forget the intelligence failures of Iraq,
declaring victory when less than half the battle had been fought.)

Prison scandal

to rebut
(American soldiers and other operatives torturing Iraqi captives, with the end result of a few grunts and a female Army Reserve Brigadier General taking the rap. The big boys though, somehow escaped censure—extraordinary buck passing.)

Worse, Bush tries to stand on both sides of the torture
issue: repudiating torture, while reserving the right to use
“extraordinary measures”.

Extraordinary rendition

to rebut
(Even better, extraordinary rendition is used to allow torture in other lands that have no restrictions
or strictures against torture.)


Katina response.

to rebut (Katrina happens—we have covered that ground already.)


FISA

to rebut (Then of course his questionable interpretation of FISA, still not sure what he thought he was accomplishing there—and don’t try to use W’s excuse for everything: the FISA law is not an onerous one, and following it would not have compromised the war on terror.


Katrina.

to reubt (Then, of course, the latest findings concerning the debacle of Katrina--)


Overall Bush Presidency

to rebut (what reality have you been thinking of?)


15 posted on 03/05/2006 8:51:31 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: SouthTexas

Oh I left out the most important part of that index.

The media has relentlessly attacked President BUSH to try to undermine him. I specifically want to address that idea. (I know, just buy Ann Coulters books (think that will get a picture)... Treason, Slander, etc.)

B. Unwarranted Media attacks on BUSH.

1) Mary Mapes Military hit piece

2) Rathergate.

3) SOROS

4) 'Drinking' claim.


16 posted on 03/05/2006 8:55:52 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Pikachu_Dad
Bad news, facts do not matter to leftists. As with the endless tirades by the MSM, going ad nauseum through "anti" agenda, they will only change the topic when rebutted. Or, far more irritating to me, completely ignore your evidence.

They don't need facts for their rants, they don't need data, it's about what they "feel". We cannot continue to try and prove the sky is blue.

A note on Presidential power and FISA though, try the Constitution as written, not the ever evolving, continually changing fluff they would try and ram down our throats.

17 posted on 03/05/2006 9:06:48 AM PST by SouthTexas
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To: SouthTexas

Yes, that is an extremely annoying feature of the leftist. Almost as annoying as claiming to be a Republican... "Why I was a life long Republican until this..."

And they love to continually jump topics - and then at the end to blame you for not sticking to the topic.

They love to have and spout completely opposing views at the same time. Such as "complaining that Katrina was only a Cat 1 when the levees broke because the feds built them substandard" versus "Biggest storm and Bush did nothing"


18 posted on 03/05/2006 11:33:46 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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The public would likely be happy if we threw out the Bill Of Rights and simply replaced it with two rights they all seem to care about:

1. The "right" to own pets; 2. The "right" to drive a car

You forgot the "right" to an abortion and the "right" to have homosexual sex. Oops, almost forgot. The "right" to be offended.


19 posted on 03/05/2006 11:37:54 AM PST by Supernatural (Lay me doon in the caul caul groon, whaur afore monie mair huv gaun)
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1. The "right" to own pets; 2. The "right" to drive a car

You forgot the "right" to an abortion and the "right" to have homosexual sex. Oops, almost forgot. The "right" to be offended.

The latest ones are the "right" to good housing and the "right" to health care. Oh and the "right" to college education.

I think all those things were in place in the USSR. And are available in Havana.

20 posted on 03/05/2006 11:41:04 AM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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