Posted on 03/05/2006 4:26:31 AM PST by goldstategop
Well, it's true that the average 25-year-old does not feel about homosexuality the way his great-grandfather felt at that age. In that sense, there is indeed a "rising tide." But the salient feature of tides is that they go out again. Whatever their appeals to virtue, inevitablist theories of history are always the weakest--the notion that progress is a ratchet effect, moving irreversibly in one direction. On September 10, 2001, for example, not many commentators in North America or Europe paid much attention to the views of Islamic lobby groups. The idea that whether something does or does not cause offence to Muslims would be the early 21st century's principal political dynamic in Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Belgium, France and Britain would have seemed absurd to most Europeans a mere five years ago. Things change very suddenly.
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That's not a very persuasive argument. Have you done the search, read the articles?
I've been studying up on gay rights activism, beliefs, goals and so on since the mid to late 80s. Have you?
Also, I live in Scandinavia and have ample exposure both to homosexual and Islamofascist activists. I said above that the latter are ten times as threatening to my values and lifestyle as the former. On second thought, make that a hundred times instead.
Good luck in persuading me, or most people, otherwise.
Well, in the US every state in which people have voted about it, "gay" marriage has gone down in flaming defeat, even liberal states such as Oregon and California. The percentage of people who consider homosexuality wrong is actually increasing in the last few years.
If you don't see anything dangerous with the goals of the "gay" agenda, then you must thing these things are A-okay:
1. People being fined, jailed, or fired (or all three) for saying anything negative about homosexuality, even wanting to point out to teenagers the dangers of "gay" sex.
2. "Gay" marriage being forced on an entire state by two judges.
3. Homosexuals as Boy Scout leaders, or Boy Scouts being prevented from using any public facilities because they don't allow homosexuals as scout leaders.
4. Kids as young as 5 years old being taught that "gay" is good.
5. Kids as young as 14 years old being taught by homosexual activists how to engage in fisting and other forms of "gay" sex acts.
6. Couples who offer to adopt or foster orphans or otherwise parentless children being forced to attend several weeks of pro-homosexual "sensitivity" training in order to adopt or foster children.
7. Homosexuals being allowed to foster or adopt children, even thought the rates of child molestation among homosexuals is indisputably much higher than among heterosexuals.
8. Laws which force businesses to hire cross dressers and transsexuals.
9. Adolescents and others being told that if they have one "gay" feeling or experience they are "gay" and they are born that way and can never change.
10. Organizations who help homosexuals get healed from their attraction to the same sex are not only ridiculed, stifled, and protested, but now they are being sued into silence.
I could list many, many more reasons why the "gay" agenda is very dangerous.
Any links to a place to read the rest of the article without registering?
Yes, exactly. Besides, they are condemned to remain at some five percent of the population, tops. The Islamists can be as many as one allows.
Before you get your knickers into a twist, I merely posted what I have heard them say. I know they lie as a matter or principle, but I highly doubt middle aged men with families would like about their disdain for gay culture, do you? As far as wasting my time in discussions with them, it is very important to know where your possible enemy is coming from, dont you agree?
I know, that is the ironic thing about it. The ones who Ive spoken to say it is the Iranians invented gay stuff. They take great pains to say in their nations, it is not tolerated at all.
You posted on this thread, yet you must not have read any of the other posters words. I dont see where anyone has called for expelling gays from this nation, do you? If you do, you really need one of those five dollar eye exams, good luck.
BAREBACK MOUNTAIN a loser for Hollywood.
"Liberals comfort themselves into thinking gay love, as fetishized in this year's Oscar-nominated movie, "Brokeback Mountain" is an irreversible cultural fact."
The Oscars revealed what everyone already knew about Hollywood: they are in it for the money. They are just as "homophobic" as the rest of America,
When it was announced Jack Nicholson would give Best Picture, you knew it would not be BareBack Mountain.
A public library in eastern MA, can't recall the town, but this is a hugh scandal: the toilet walls have holes drilled in them so gay patrons of the library can indulge in anonymous sex. Isn't life grand.
Muslims/Islam would find something else to complain about with US culture if there were no gay issue. The truth is that Arab men for generations have preyed on young boys, seeing homosexual pedophilia as a legitimate behavior.
I think you are right. However, I once again merely posted what I have personally heard. I have no reason to doubt those that I have heard utter such disdain for gay things. Yes, I also posted I believe that gay culture originated in the middle east, probably before islam showed up. If not there, then it would have originated elsewhere at some time Im sure. They were the first people to actually have cities of note and a civilization. It is my opinion that the more advanced a culture becomes the more acceptable gay things become. Take that as you wish.
Some middle aged men have been found to be engaged in all kinds of activities. Having said that, I get your point.
"take it as you will" you are clearly suggesting that something has to be done about the gays in this country to appease muslims. Excuse my hyperbole and the reduction ad absurdam argument i made. It is still not off-base.
Ok, since you say Im secretly posting some form of action about gays needs to be taken, I wonder if you could let me in on the action Im promoting. Cause I sure dont recall thinking that in my own mind, but I guess you can read my mind better than I can. Btw, is that a gay thing? Being able to read someone elses mind I mean.
bttt
No, learn how to communicate better.
What on earth can I possibly communicate to gay people? As far as Im concerned, gays are like martians, a totally foreign element that I have no wish to communicate with at all. Btw, gays are a hateful bunch in general, a real detriment to society.
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