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AC-130 gunships returning to Iraq
Associated Press ^ | CHARLES J. HANLEY

Posted on 03/04/2006 3:29:02 PM PST by Dubya

AN AIR BASE IN IRAQ -- The U.S. Air Force has begun moving heavily armed AC-130 airplanes -- the lethal "flying gunships" of the Vietnam War -- to a base in Iraq as commanders search for new tools to counter the Iraqi resistance, The Associated Press has learned.

An AP reporter saw the first of the turboprop-driven aircraft after it landed at the airfield this week. Four are expected.

The Iraq-based special forces command controlling the AC-130s, the Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force, said it would have no comment on the deployment. But the plan's general outline was confirmed by other Air Force officers, speaking anonymously because of the sensitivity of the subject.

Military officials warned that disclosing the location of the aircraft's new base would violate security provisions of rules governing media access to U.S. installations.

The four-engine gunships, whose home base is Hurlburt Field in Florida, have operated over Iraq before, flying from airfields elsewhere in the region. In November 2004, air-to-ground fire from AC-130s supported the U.S. attack that took the western city of Fallujah from insurgents. Basing the planes inside Iraq will cut hours off their transit time to reach suspected targets.

The left-side ports of the AC-130s, 98-foot-long planes that can slowly circle over a target for long periods, bristle with a potent arsenal -- 40 mm cannon that can fire 120 rounds per minute, and big 105 mm cannon, normally a field artillery weapon. The plane's latest version, the AC-130U, known as "Spooky," also carries Gatling gun-type 20 mm cannon.

The gunships were designed primarily for battlefield use to place saturated fire on massed troops. In Vietnam, for example, they were deployed against North Vietnamese supply convoys along the Ho Chi Minh Trail, where the Air Force claimed to have destroyed 10,000 trucks over several years.

The use of AC-130s in places like Fallujah, urban settings where insurgents may be among crowded populations of noncombatants, has been criticized by human rights groups.

The slow-moving AC-130s also offer an intelligence gathering advantage in the Iraq fight: sophisticated long-range video, infrared and radar sensors.

American commanders are marshaling all available tools to detect the Iraqi insurgents' stealthy operations, especially at night, when they plant roadside bombs targeting American road patrols and convoys.

The Air Force's senior tactical commander in Iraq said the AC-130 can be both a high-intensity and low-intensity weapon.

"It's got tons of guns, and it's got all kinds of stuff on it that can be applied to the problems you have," Brig. Gen. Frank Gorenc, who refused to discuss the current AC-130 deployment, said in an AP interview.

That "stuff" includes "the ability to take these high-tech pods and to use them to find guys planting (bombs) and to find other nefarious activity," he said.

The Predator drone -- the MQ-1 unmanned aerial vehicle -- has been a reconnaissance workhorse in Iraq, but Air Force officers say they don't have enough to meet demand for missions. The fiscal 2007 Defense Department budget proposed last month by the Bush administration envisions spending $1.6 billion on additional reconnaissance drones.


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To: irish guard
Try the thread posted later today about the volunteer martyr forces in Iran being ready to march on our guys in Iraq.

There may be a target rich environment crying out for C130 attention.

41 posted on 03/04/2006 7:01:53 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah
"Try the thread posted later today about the volunteer martyr forces in Iran being ready to march on our guys in Iraq."

Nah. They know better than to 'group-up.' They'll come in ones and twos as terrorists.

42 posted on 03/04/2006 7:14:18 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

When Saddam was in charge they didn't do that. They came in large groups.


43 posted on 03/04/2006 7:15:50 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Dubya

A few heavy hits by these mean puppies and a few fuel air bomb explosions in the right places could make any enemy say " ENOUGH. ENOUGH PLEASE STOP NOW" !


44 posted on 03/04/2006 7:20:43 PM PST by jetson (throne)
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To: muawiyah
"When Saddam was in charge they didn't do that. They came in large groups."

Yup. With the youngins in front.

45 posted on 03/04/2006 7:31:10 PM PST by blam
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To: muawiyah
"Are we relocating these planes because we intend to use them..."

I read a bunch of lefty replies on this, and they wrote that it's about our withdrawals into fire-bases and letting the Iraqis do more ground work.

46 posted on 03/04/2006 11:25:49 PM PST by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: blam

There was a thread yesterday. The 30-day ultimatum is being delivered at the UN venue. Interesting (but not surprising) that so few seem to have noticed it.


47 posted on 03/05/2006 10:57:20 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: endthematrix

The Lefties wouldn't know a "FIREBASE" from a college campus. Not to mention what their true mission is.


48 posted on 03/05/2006 11:07:09 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Pat Buchanan............A principled pessimist with a pessimistic principal)
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To: RightWhale
"There was a thread yesterday. The 30-day ultimatum is being delivered at the UN venue. Interesting (but not surprising) that so few seem to have noticed it."

Thanks. I saw it on another thread this morning. 4-6-2006?

49 posted on 03/05/2006 11:27:45 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

Yes, unless the refusal comes earlier.


50 posted on 03/05/2006 11:29:59 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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51 posted on 03/05/2006 7:28:43 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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To: Dubya
Absolutely my favorite warship!

This plane will quickly send the islamo-pig jihadist to their "paradise".

Fantastic news.

52 posted on 03/06/2006 6:34:15 AM PST by lormand (...the wrong person came out of the water that fateful night in Chappaquiddick)
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