Posted on 03/04/2006 3:05:04 PM PST by jmc1969
Iowa Senator Tom Harkin has called for the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq, saying it's the only solution after recent religious violence in that nation.
Harkin's comments place him among the first members of Congress to publicly state that the war in Iraq has become a fight between Muslim factions.
The criticism follows a CBS poll last week that showed 65 percent of respondents disapproved of President Bush's handling of the war, his worst marks since the war started three years ago.
A White House spokesman says retreat before victory would be reckless.
(Excerpt) Read more at woi-tv.com ...
That is impossible to do when your mindset is, "Islam is a religion of peace" and "We worship the same God."- tom
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That's the best explenation I've seen or heard of why we're in this shape at this time. I'd say you hit the nail on the head.
General Tom Harkin? First, he`s a lousy Senator, now he`s trying to be a General
Your idea of minimizing our casualities seems to be very different than mine.
Actually, if the plan was to simply minimize causalities, we'd bring them home tomorrow.
If this is the plan it's a damn $hitty one.
I'm glad you're not the CIC.
I'm glad you're not the CIC.
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So is Al Qaeda and a lot of other Mohammedans.
So is Al Qaeda and a lot of other Mohammedans.
No they're not.
lol!
Yet another Democrat demands US surrender.
Can you imagine the shape we would be in if Gore or Kerry had won instead of W. Thank you, Lord.
He's a douche bag!
The ideal military solution would be to take the editors of the New York Times, the Washington Post and Associated Press out and shoot them for treason.
That would stop the MSM from aiding and abetting the foreign agitators in Iraq, and might even stop our press from purposely undermining the war.
Since we're not going to see this happen, I can't really see what a military commander could offer as a plan.
Could you imagine the CEO of your company announcing a new corporate plan and direction, and you and some of your fellow employees deciding that the CEO was full of it, and that your group was going to publicly talk down management daily? And the company newsletter signed on with your group, and started printing your version of "the facts"?
In the real world, your a** and your pals' a**es are gone in a week. And everybody at the newsletter is fired, too, for good measure.
Hwoever, in the NeverNeverLand of Washington and the MSM, the LieTrain rolls on and on, Hoovering up your tax dollars and getting our guys killed, all the while blaming the CEO...
Could you imagine the CEO of your company announcing a new corporate plan and direction, and you and some of your fellow employees deciding that the CEO was full of it, and that your group was going to publicly talk down management daily? And the company newsletter signed on with your group, and started printing your version of "the facts"?
In the real world, your a** and your pals' a**es are gone in a week. And everybody at the newsletter is fired, too, for good measure.
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Your analogy is faulty. Your entire premise is based on a total lack of understanding of how our republic is supposed to run. The president isnt the king. We dont work for him. He is the help. He works for us.
Nor does he own the press. Our press is not a company newsletter in place to regurgitate the administrations spin. The Founding Fathers established a free, independent press as a means to challenge the government and to keep our public servants actions open and transparent. The president cant fire the press nor force it to support his actions and programs. Nor can he get rid of people who dislike, and criticize, his actions and programs. Were we still operating as the Founding Fathers envisioned, the people could fire the president.
It is thinking like yours that gave us presidents like Nixon, Carter, Bush, Clinton, and Bush. It is also thinking like yours that gave us an unresponsive, entrenched, congress, more concerned with personal power, and personal gain, than with freedom and liberty. Your thinking is giving us a ruling political class rather than a government accountable and responsive to the people who are supposed to be sovereign.
Your post is based on a total lack of understanding of my analogy.
This is a Constitutional website. I arrived here shortly after JR started it. All of us old dogs make our arguments from the standpoint of a Constitutional Republic, not the stinking democracy postulated by most, if not all, of our politicians.
So, I reject the body of your post, which assigns to me distasteful, illogical and untrue traits.
The fact of my analogy remains. Your bogus misrepresentation of MY post would lead to the inescapable logic that the Republican party (and ANY American opposition party!) should have taken exactly the same tack during World War II - they should have talked down the war effort daily, leaked war information to the press, and that the press should have done their utmost to sabotage the war effort, up to and including publishing future troop movements and war strategy, playing up American killed and wounded, and decrying "war crimes" by American troops.
You've shown quite the attitude throughout this entire post, and it's been an ugly little attitude.
I'm done with you.
New York Times About To Reveal Even More Top Secret Operational Data! Big Benefit To Terrorists
As I was saying one mere day ago...
;-)
Why is it so difficult to call this man and his party what they are. They are traitors and deserve neither our respect nor our pity. The deserve only our contempt.
Oh, I forgot. They may hate the war but support they troops. Never mind. /s
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