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Evangelical Climate Initiative (Environmental Preachers Try To Force Flock To Follow)
Christians and Climate dot org ^

Posted on 03/04/2006 3:34:18 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat

The same love for God and neighbor that compels us to preach salvation through Jesus Christ, protect the unborn, preserve the family and the sanctity of marriage, and take the whole Gospel to a hurting world, also compels us to recognize that human-induced climate change is a serious Christian issue requiring action now.

(Excerpt) Read more at christiansandclimate.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eci; environment; environmentalism; evangelicals; greens; rickwarren
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Their first "In the News" item on the home page is something touting their anti-Bush stand:

"Video: Earth Mission: Some Evangelicals break from Bush policy to join fight against global warming (ABC News, February 10, 2006)"

The implication President Bush doesn't care about the environment--and indeed that conservatives generally don't care about the world is ridiculous. These so-called "leaders" think we need them to teach us about how to care for the world's climate?? They obviously have too much time on their hands.

1 posted on 03/04/2006 3:34:22 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat
You really have to admire people that describe a problem that, if real would be the worst plague ever sent by God. Then they say we can fix it. Then they parrot a bunch of things that offer no solution, but make believe these things are the solution if we are just Christian enough to act on them.

Lately I've taken to telling these people that regarding global warming, I grew up in Minnesota, so I favor it.

2 posted on 03/04/2006 3:47:53 AM PST by stevem
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To: Recovering_Democrat

So, is this group affiliated in any way with the World Council of Churches? I'll bet they are. This climate change tripe is nothing more than an excuse to justify socialism.

Stewarding and having dominion over the earth, the true Biblical mandate, is way different than the control freak vision of the environmental movement.


3 posted on 03/04/2006 3:51:19 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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Isn't it amazing how sneaky and cunning these people are. They just morph into something that they feel will be more appealing to consumers.

What was that proverb in the Bible of "my sheep will know me". I don't "know" those enviro-vangelists.

4 posted on 03/04/2006 3:52:12 AM PST by mgist
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This maybe part of the Jim Wallis group that call themselves Evangelicals, but in reality are not.

Mariabush
5 posted on 03/04/2006 3:58:46 AM PST by pepperdog
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"This maybe part of the Jim Wallis group that call themselves Evangelicals, but in reality are not."

I found it interesting that they didn't provide a list of members or organizations. They provided a method of contact (email) but that doesn't tell anyone anything.

6 posted on 03/04/2006 4:08:20 AM PST by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" - Anonymous)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Their first "In the News" item on the home page is something touting their anti-Bush stand:

"Video: Earth Mission: Some Evangelicals break from Bush policy to join fight against global warming (ABC News, February 10, 2006)"

That's a bit strong. It's ABC's headline, story, implication and anti-Bush spin. I could only watch bits of the TV ad due to limited bandwidth, which is what this story is all about. It freatures a clip of Rick Warren (The Purpose Driven Life) and I could find no reference in the ad itself to the Bush administration implied or otherwise.

Not so with the ABC commentary, though, which is to be expected.

7 posted on 03/04/2006 4:18:58 AM PST by Northern Alliance
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"Jim Wallis group that call themselves Evangelicals, but in reality are not."

You got that right, they are Communists.


8 posted on 03/04/2006 4:47:30 AM PST by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Global Warming, like Endangered Species, and EPA, and Wetlands is all and only about getting total control of the economy and all resources and eliminating private property, all for the benefit of a New Enlightened State ruled by bureaucrats in equity and fairness and equality for all the ruled. This is all about a regression to middle ages social systems whith the bulk of the remaining population living in bare subsistence conditions tied to locations and the rulers, because they must have sufficient resources to carry out their duties and stay healthy, living in strongly protected Gated Communities atransported by large vehicles with Drivers. They may even put moats around their Gated Communities. The Mohammedans are aiming for the same sort of world but they are looking farther back in time. Leftists kind of admire them because they are several centuries purer than liberals.


9 posted on 03/04/2006 4:59:23 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than over here.)
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I have heard the ad and it and discussion about it are designed to promote the impression that this is evangelicals just like the folks who support Israel and demosnstrate in front of abortion facilities. But,rather, they are the same leftist apostates-in-all-but the-name Episcopalians and Methodists, etc. that exist only to promote the Socialist Gospel. They wewe all for Banning The Bomb in the Cold War days and now gay marriage and abortion, too.


10 posted on 03/04/2006 5:04:19 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than over here.)
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Is this an attempt to package thier "product" so that they think they will appeal to a wider group? Maybe they are sincere but probably they do not know what they are talking about.


11 posted on 03/04/2006 5:06:20 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: Northern Alliance

These guys never "broke" with any Bush policy. They are liberal God-is-Dead social clubs with names that are reminiscent of when their "churches" were once something like actually evangelical long long ago.


12 posted on 03/04/2006 5:06:58 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than over here.)
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There was an article in Science about this. They named Richard Cizik (National Association of Evangelicals), the president of Wheaton College, and Rick Warren.

I'm not an evangelical so I don't know how mainstream this is.


13 posted on 03/04/2006 5:07:41 AM PST by Varda
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To: outinyellowdogcountry

Mostly they are sincere socialists. Sincerity for a socialist does not have quite the implications that it has for other folks.


14 posted on 03/04/2006 5:08:36 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than over here.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Preaching about the environment is so much more populr than bringing up touchy subjects such as the divorce rate in their flocks or the increasing number of parishoners who are shacking up without being married at all.


15 posted on 03/04/2006 5:12:15 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Varda

Rick Warren, huh? At best, he's putting this out as a way to attract a wider group of people to church. Environazis need Jesus too!
If that's the case, I hope it works.


16 posted on 03/04/2006 6:17:38 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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Well, it does remind me of the social gospel that main line churches championed in the past and at the root is the same foundation, in my opinion, and it isn't the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The main line churches have continued the drift away from the centrality of the Gospel and look where many of them are today.


17 posted on 03/04/2006 7:03:27 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: Varda

Wheaton College is pretty mainstream evangelical, and so is Rick Warren...well, aside from a few ultras on this board who think he is closer to hell than heaven.


18 posted on 03/04/2006 8:15:13 AM PST by norge
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Well that's unfortunate....another quote from the Science article.

'This month, 86 influential leaders in the U.S. Christian evangelical movement came out for "national legislation requiring … economy-wide reductions" in carbon emissions. Quoting the Bible on the need to protect God's creation, the statement says that climate shifts "will hit the poor the hardest."

These people have a funny way of helping the poor.


19 posted on 03/04/2006 8:33:09 AM PST by Varda
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I agree. Quite sorry that the evangelicals are dipping into this nonsense.


20 posted on 03/04/2006 8:48:17 AM PST by norge
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