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The lying lies a liberal teacher tells
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, March 03, 2006 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 03/04/2006 1:39:56 AM PST by JohnHuang2

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To: Darnright
Don't muck up this thread...or anything by the press with possible facts....
41 posted on 03/04/2006 9:20:40 AM PST by Osage Orange (Credere et Peristere)
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To: Hardastarboard
Read the following in the WSJ today

[Professor Harvey Mansfield] "What you see today at Harvard and elsewhere are a lot of liberal males who are trying to make women happy by trying to treat them as if they weren't women." "And that," says the man who never misses the chance to open a door for a woman or help her put on her coat, "doesn't work very well." So why didn't he simply write a book on gentlemanliness? "Because before you're a gentleman, you have to be a man. Gentlemanliness is a refinement. It presupposes that you have a certain superiority over women, but teaches you how to exercise it. It also teaches you that women are superior in their ways."

Nine years ago, when Mr. Mansfield offered his first seminar on manliness, I barely managed to score a seat in the small classroom. So many campus feminists had crowded in that students were forced to sit on the floor. These women saw their opportunity, finally, to have it out with the conservative bogeyman. But Mr. Mansfield got the best of them. He proceeded to talk for much of the next two hours about the ancient Greek notion of thumos, or spiritedness, an idea he believes is the precursor of modern-day manliness. The feminists were bored silly--almost none returned the following week.

Despite his statements outside the classroom, Mr. Mansfield sees his role of professor very differently from that of provocateur. His classes rarely descend into debates over current affairs. Arguments from Plato may not convince these "educated women" that he is right, but unlike Larry Summers, Mr. Mansfield has tenure.

Reminding us why we have tenure laws. It is to keep some yahoo from defaming a teacher for scholarly opinions, NOT to allow him to burden students with political diatribes.

42 posted on 03/04/2006 9:26:25 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: StACase

What do you think would happen if he just stuck to the material to be taught?


43 posted on 03/04/2006 9:37:27 AM PST by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: StACase
At a function here locally, a public school history teacher I know of wrote this on a profile sheet: Hobbies: Expressing anger towards President Bush. Plans next ten years: teaching students about the other wars we'll be fighting in ten years.

So I sent him an E-Mail: ............... Here's his answer:

"And finally, as I prefer to take personal emails in my personal email account -- please email . . . if you have any further questions or concerns."

It seems that, since e-mails in a public Government insitution may be monitored, your Bush-hating public school history teacher is getting a little nervous that a taxpayer is challenging his inappropriate use of a public school class room.

A "private" e-mail deals with family, friends, personal matters, etc. Your e-mail dealt strictly with the inappropriate conduct by a public employee on his public job and was sent, appropriately, to his e-mail account at his place of public employment.

If I were you, I would point that out to that public school teacher in an e-mail reply to his public school e-mail address with cc's to the Principal of the public school, every member of the School District Board, the Editor of you local paper and every one of your State representatives.

44 posted on 03/04/2006 10:00:22 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Osage Orange
Oh, but it's so much FUN.
45 posted on 03/04/2006 10:08:18 AM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: JohnHuang2

Libs are aother boards are calling him a hate-filled Hitler Jugend...

Yet I have no one that will explain to me how ideology applies to MAP READING!

Is there a Stalinist Ideological way to look at Driving Directions? Do Maoists look at Mountain ranges in a different light than Capitalists?

And I've read the Colorado State Teaching Standards for Geography. No where in it does it state that "Bush Is Hitler!!" is part of the approved standard...

Can someone help me with this??


46 posted on 03/04/2006 10:12:05 AM PST by tcrlaf
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To: JohnHuang2

The lying lies a liberal teacher tells




More fitting headline: THE LYING LIES LIBERAL TEACHERS TELL!!!


47 posted on 03/04/2006 10:15:50 AM PST by danamco
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To: Darnright

Fantastic catch.


48 posted on 03/04/2006 10:19:48 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: chas1776

By Henry Wallace?


49 posted on 03/04/2006 10:22:04 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Polybius; StACase

Very good advice.

I've done that on a number of occasions. They're really getting to hate the internet ; ) , deciding it was much better to discuss issues 'in person'. I usually said I didn't have the time.


50 posted on 03/04/2006 10:28:53 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: JohnHuang2

And .. as someone on FOX noted .. it was a chance to get out of school .. what kid wouldn't want to do that ..?? The media is trying to make the public believe ALL THOSE KIDS supported the teacher. It was actually only a handful who supported him.


51 posted on 03/04/2006 10:29:53 AM PST by CyberAnt (Democrats/Old Media: "controversy, crap and confusion" -- Amen!)
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To: OldFriend

Which classrooms?

I recorded my lectures during college, and nobody ever said anything, and I didn't ask for "permission". I had tendonitis, and couldn't write.


52 posted on 03/04/2006 10:30:08 AM PST by Politicalmom (Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
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To: tcrlaf

"And I've read the Colorado State Teaching Standards for Geography. No where in it does it state that "Bush Is Hitler!!" is part of the approved standard..."

Allow me to help. You must go to the addendums approved and provided by the NEA and DNC.


53 posted on 03/04/2006 10:30:48 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: sirchtruth

"Level playing field with the understanding of what game you're currently playing."

Now, THAT is a quote to remember.


54 posted on 03/04/2006 10:32:25 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: When do we get liberated?

He wasn't hired to teach his "opinion".


55 posted on 03/04/2006 10:33:57 AM PST by Politicalmom (Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Darnright

Nice work.

I didn't know he included Israel in his rant. That's interesting...


56 posted on 03/04/2006 10:40:25 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: freema; StACase
Very good advice. I've done that on a number of occasions. They're really getting to hate the internet ; ) , deciding it was much better to discuss issues 'in person'. I usually said I didn't have the time.

I usually say that my blood-sucking lawyers like it better when I document everything. ;-)

57 posted on 03/04/2006 10:40:47 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Polybius

I don't tell them THAT! That takes all the intrigue out of it! LOL!


58 posted on 03/04/2006 10:44:41 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: JohnHuang2
The issue here is that the professor used class time for advocacy of a particular political position.

He certainly has the right to his opinion. Some try to frame this as a 1st Amendment issue but it clearly isn't. It's a clear misuse of class time for his lopsided political advocacy.

'Abuse of power.'

I have no idea why Bill O'R and Hannity don't present that clear distinction and issue to the teacher's ACLU mouthpiece.
59 posted on 03/04/2006 10:48:34 AM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: StACase

I think his profile was just a joke. I think the teacher responded to you fairly and fairly nicely.

The other side of the political aisle is terminally humorless. Let's not become that way!


60 posted on 03/04/2006 10:51:28 AM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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