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To: Heyworth
You're really painting yourself into a corner here by trying to back up Watie

From my post above: 'Gerhart discovered how to "buffer" aspirin in 1853, but the purified unbuffered aspirin (salicylic acid) was produced in 1838 by Italian chemist Raffaele Piria.' That does not mean that salicyclic acid was unavailable prior, just that it was then easier to mass produce it. The father of medicine wrote about using chewing willow leaves/bark to alleviate pain, just as native Americans have known about it's benefits.

As for "Aspirin", yes, the chemical substance was developed earlier, but aspirin, as "aspirin" was trademarked by Bayer in 1899 and then marketed around the world.

stand did not claim Grant ingested BAYER Aspirin. We drink small amounts of a tea made from yaupon berries during the annual Green Corn ceremony (a caffeinated diuretic for spiritual and physical cleansing), we don't take pills. I guess because it's not in pill form, mass produced by some pharmacuetical giant that the medicinal properties/caffeine are non-existant.

You and your cohorts have attempted to "prove" that Grant could not have ingested "aspirin" because it wasn't invented until 1897. I've simply proven that aspirin, buffered and unbuffered existed prior to that, and before the war.

940 posted on 03/27/2006 9:57:15 AM PST by 4CJ (Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito, qua tua te fortuna sinet.)
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To: 4CJ
stand did not claim Grant ingested BAYER Aspirin.

And yet until the "aspirin" name went into the public domain (as reparations for WW1), only Bayer made "aspirin." And pure, unbuffered salicylic acid just isn't the same thing as aspirin. And again, Watie didn't claim Grant was sipping willow bark tea or eating pure salicylic acid. He said he was taking heroin and aspirin for a toothache. At best you're saying that he speaks imprecisely, despite his German-historical-novel source.

I've simply proven that aspirin, buffered and unbuffered existed prior to that, and before the war.

So what are you asking us to believe, that the knowledge of how to buffer salicylic acid was such common knowledge after 1853 that anonymous American pharmacists were producing it, but that Bayer was able to come in 46 years later and make billions on it because no one had thought to market it?

942 posted on 03/27/2006 10:31:22 AM PST by Heyworth
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To: 4CJ
thank you for posting FACTS.

nonetheless, you are dealing with HATERS, bigots & lunatics, who don't WANT to know the TRUTH, as the truth is NOT on their (pitiful) side.

their "stock in trade" is IGNORANCE of the FACTS, blather,ad. hominum. attacks, evasions,SELF-righteousness, KNOWING lies & arrogance. (those qualities have forever been the mark of a DY!)

free dixie,sw

949 posted on 03/27/2006 2:23:00 PM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: 4CJ
i do NOT know that this is FACT, but a longtime "member in good standing" of a local CW Round-table near DC told me Saturday night,that the substance Dr Morton "invented" (now called HEROIN)was FIRST called "MORTONITE".

in the past, his information has been proved to be correct. (i wouldn't know where to even "start looking for" the supposed 1st name of the drug.)

free dixie,sw

950 posted on 03/27/2006 2:33:44 PM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: 4CJ
btw, i note the "nameless, shunned one" is still posting to me at least a YEAR after i notified him/her that i would neither read nor respond to ANYTHING he/she posts.

talk about being CLUELESS & HAVING NO LIFE!

free dixie,sw

951 posted on 03/27/2006 2:50:13 PM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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