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To: 4CJ
The Confederates were made up of men like Thomas J. "Sonewall" Jackson who - gasp - started a Sunday School for blacks.

He didn't start it, he continued it. And I'm not sure what your point is. The south was filled with churches who believed that bringing Christianity and the teachings of the Bible to slaves was part of their calling. Jackson's actions weren't out of the ordinary. So he taught a Sunday school for slaves, several of which belonged to him. What is that supposed to make him? Does that somehow make him a better man? Or counteract his belief that slavery was the right and proper place for blacks? Y'all keep dredging that school up as if it makes him into some kind of saint. It makes him nothing more or less than a typical religious, slave-owning southerner. One who believed slavery was worth fighting for.

619 posted on 03/20/2006 3:57:54 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
He didn't start it, he continued it.

Wrong. The previous school had been terminated. Jackson and Anna wanted to ensure that blacks received Chritian instruction.

Contrast that to Lincoln, who wanted to deport/expatriate blacks from the states.

As to Mr. Lincoln's religious views, he was in short an infidel, was a universalist, was a Unitarian, a theist. He did not believe that Jesus was God nor the son of God, etc., was a fatalist, denied the freedom of the will, wrote a book in 1834 or 5 — just after the death of Ann Rutledge, as I remember the facts as to time. He then became more melancholy, a little crazed, etc.; [he] was always skeptical, read Volney in New Salem and other books. Samuel Hill of Menard was the man who burned up Lincoln's little infidel book. Lincoln told me a thousand times that he did not believe that the Bible, etc., were revelations of God as the Christian world contends, etc. Will send you a printed letter soon on this subject. You have Mr. Hill's statement as well as Bale's, which see. See A. Y. Ellis and J. H. Matheny's testimony in your possession. The points that Mr. Lincoln tried to demonstrate are, first, that the Bible was not God's revelations; and, secondly, that Jesus was not the son of God. [italics in original, emphasis mine]
Emanuel Hertz, The Hidden Lincoln: From the Letters and Papers of William H. Herndon, New York, NY: Blue Ribbon Books (1940), pp. 64-65.

629 posted on 03/20/2006 9:54:40 AM PST by 4CJ (Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito, qua tua te fortuna sinet.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Did Jackson really own slaves. I thought he did not.


640 posted on 03/20/2006 12:28:54 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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