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To: Non-Sequitur
He didn't start it, he continued it.

Wrong. The previous school had been terminated. Jackson and Anna wanted to ensure that blacks received Chritian instruction.

Contrast that to Lincoln, who wanted to deport/expatriate blacks from the states.

As to Mr. Lincoln's religious views, he was in short an infidel, was a universalist, was a Unitarian, a theist. He did not believe that Jesus was God nor the son of God, etc., was a fatalist, denied the freedom of the will, wrote a book in 1834 or 5 — just after the death of Ann Rutledge, as I remember the facts as to time. He then became more melancholy, a little crazed, etc.; [he] was always skeptical, read Volney in New Salem and other books. Samuel Hill of Menard was the man who burned up Lincoln's little infidel book. Lincoln told me a thousand times that he did not believe that the Bible, etc., were revelations of God as the Christian world contends, etc. Will send you a printed letter soon on this subject. You have Mr. Hill's statement as well as Bale's, which see. See A. Y. Ellis and J. H. Matheny's testimony in your possession. The points that Mr. Lincoln tried to demonstrate are, first, that the Bible was not God's revelations; and, secondly, that Jesus was not the son of God. [italics in original, emphasis mine]
Emanuel Hertz, The Hidden Lincoln: From the Letters and Papers of William H. Herndon, New York, NY: Blue Ribbon Books (1940), pp. 64-65.

629 posted on 03/20/2006 9:54:40 AM PST by 4CJ (Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito, qua tua te fortuna sinet.)
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To: 4CJ
Wrong. The previous school had been terminated. Jackson and Anna wanted to ensure that blacks received Chritian instruction.

The perhaps you should have said that the school resumed under Jackson. Your claim that he 'started' it makes it sound like something he established which is nowhere near to being true.

Contrast that to Lincoln, who wanted to deport/expatriate blacks from the states.

And Jackson and Lee, of course, wanted blacks to remain right where they were, as property. Something to be bought and sold. Lee said slavery was necessary and the best condition for blacks in the south. Jackson himself owned slaves, seeing nothing wrong with selling some to buy property or in buying children as young as 5 to be trained as household servants, and is on record as saying that slavery could well cause a conflict between the sections and that he would come in on the side of slavery. It would be impossible to say that either man had the best interests of blacks in mind at any time.

As to Mr. Lincoln's religious views, he was in short an infidel, was a universalist, was a Unitarian, a theist.

And there are numerous other quotes attesting to Lincoln's belief in God and his reverence for the Bible, more evidence of faith for Lincoln that for Jefferson Davis. But I digress. You criticize Lincoln for his religious beliefs, unorthodox as they may have been. Lincoln did not believe the same things men like Lee and Jackson did. He faith was different, that is true. Lee and Jackson, for example, believed that slavery was ordained by God. They believed that it was His will that human beings were bought and sold like animals, and neither man had any real problem with it. Jackson believed that since God ordained slavery then it was God's job to end it, and that no mere mortal should take any steps to hasten it's end. Lee believed the same. Lincoln, on the other hand, could not accept that God promoted slavery so he was opposed to the institution all his adult life. So why is a belief that God wanted men to be bought and sold as chattel, to be treated as something less than human any better than Lincoln's doubt in many of Christianity's tenets?

672 posted on 03/20/2006 7:07:03 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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