Posted on 03/03/2006 11:37:56 AM PST by Rebeleye
The removal of the Confederate flag from Amherst County's official seal has upset Southern heritage groups, who contend residents weren't told of the change. County officials acknowledge the image was quietly removed in August 2004 to avoid an uproar.
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Tough cookies for you, then.
Even if we conceded everything you say about him arguendo, he'd still be on the right side, and you'd still be on the shady side, hustling bastardized history whomped up by Harry Jaffa.
And he'd still be a nicer guy than you, duckspeaker. What a knucklehead!
Teleological fallacy, appeal to force, ad hominem.
Can't you do anything right?
I'd believe the "bred" part.
We were a Union under the Articles which is why the Constitution was "...to form a more perfect..." one. Perhaps that is not important in the literature you consult- Misinformation for Dummies.
The same idea motivated both groups (which were not entirely different in any case) and that was a Union which protected Liberty. Of course, slavery made that Union difficult since it contradicted its basis.
Hence the Constitution was the outgrowth of the same ideas in the minds of the greatest thinkers of the era.
Hamilton wanted a government strong enough to protect the Nation and its Liberties hence all of his efforts at the Convention were directed to that end. He was hardly a "counterrevolutionary" but rather George Washington's best ally. In fact, Hamilton was one of the most revolutionary in the entire nation for twenty years driving the nation forward to greatness.
Of course, those reactionary and retrograd forces which eventually dragged the Nation into a horrible war and ruined the South for a century hated him. That is badge he wore proudly.
Lincoln, Washington and Hamilton are the three greatest statesmen our Nation has ever had.
Baloney. The Bill of Rights didn't even affect the states which trampled upon Liberty to such an extent the Constitution had to be written in the first place.
My statement is 100% correct whether you can understand it or not.
The "press" of that day was hardly dominated by Federalists. And the Republicans had no peers when it came to interference with the mails or newspapers.
Both parties eventually came to know that confidential info could not be passed by the mails.
Burr was particularly adept at stealing such information from the mails. Once instance was when he had a letter given him wherein Hamilton was attacking Adams. This likely allowed Jefferson to win in 1800.
They spoke as a People and thought as a People even in the 1760s. It was a right of a People which Jefferson specified in the Declaration NOT of "states" which did not exist until the Continental Congress called for their creation.
Of course, sovereignty is one on the Battlefield and that was won by the Continental Army directed by the Continental Congresse under the leadership of AMERICAN heroes like Washington and Hamilton.
Funny that I am sneered at for DEFENDING the Union and the Constitution from attacks by those who GLORIFY treasonous men and their acts.
Exactly right the Congress SPECIFIED how the will of the American People was to be determined. It FORBID state legislatures from doing the ratification. LoL
What poor sovereignty states had. No foreign policy no sovereignty.
Um, no. 5 - count 'em - 5 states declared their independence prior to 4 Jul 1776 - New York didn't even vote for approval - the Provincial Congress of New York on 11 Jun voted AGAINST independence and refused to grant the New York delegates authority on the matter. On 2 Jul 1776 both South Carolina and Pennsylvania voted agaist the Declaration [Deleware was divided) The 4 New York signatures appearing on the official copy were not added 4 July, they were added 2 Aug 1776, and they had not even voted for it's adoption!
Lincoln a statesman? BWHAHAHahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! A statesman would have avoided war.
Washington, Jefferson and Reagan are the three greatest statesmen our Nation has ever had.
The convention made it actionable by the STATES in convention - an act of the sovereigns of the state - not a legislative act that could be easily overturned in the next session of the state legislature. The act of the state of Georgia in no way admitted New York, or spoke for her citizens.
Morris' motion to submit ratification the the amalgamated/consolidated/unified/whole/entire people of the America States did NOT even receive a second!
There a huge difference betwwen defending ourselves from terrorists, a policy which I earnestly and fervently support, and blockading Southern ports, attempting to land troops, and waging war on what Lincoln claimed were Americans, despite a lack on congressional action against the seceded states.
A statesman would have negotiated - what would it have hurt? The Confederate government had already indicated that it would leave the lower Mississippi open as well as pay for disputed properties in question, as well as any other matter of concern. The forts in question were built to DEFEND southern ports, not to attack them. Anderson removed a civilian workforce from Sumter at gunpoint, violating the existing armistice. Lincoln then lied to former US Supreme Court justice John A. Campbell and others about his intentions, then proceeded to invade South Carolina.
Lincoln a statesman? he simply wanted the tariff revenues. He was a money-hungry fool, who used his office to line his own pockets, and caused the death of 623,000 men, and maimed another million. With todays population that would be over 14 million dead and wounded.
A real statesman would have avoided war.
The Declaration was that the States were part of the United States of America. It was the first statement that these states were forming a new nation. It spoke in the name of the People and of its rights.
Those who spoke against it may as well have been swimming against the Amazon.
Please don't try to confuse our knucklehead with facts. It'll just make him lock down his caps key and go orbital.
Although I must say watching you haul JustShoutOutandFakeIt's pants down is sorta funny in a LOL sort of way.
I'm torn.
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Different "United States" though, bub.
The Constitution is The Contract. It's the Real Deal, the governing document.
We redirect your attention to The Contract. All previous offers are null and void.
Hamilton was FAR more than a "businessman's lawyer". He was the most brilliant intellect of the revolutionary period and dominated the political scene for over a decade.
Rather than being a mere businessman's lawyer he was second only to Washington in creating and strengthening the United States of America.
His economic concepts were head and shoulders above his contemporaries and were always directed at strengthening the new nation.
Left wingers have always hated him and dragged out the lame class warfare concepts which have always dominated the DemocRAT party.
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