Posted on 03/03/2006 11:37:56 AM PST by Rebeleye
The removal of the Confederate flag from Amherst County's official seal has upset Southern heritage groups, who contend residents weren't told of the change. County officials acknowledge the image was quietly removed in August 2004 to avoid an uproar.
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You have great patience to be engaged in this debate.
There are many people who are worth discussing issues with, and some whose responses demonstrate they provide entertainment value alone.
slaves were ROUTINELY armed by their owners, all over the USA, including DURING the WBTS (to not only hunt for the families but to protect the farms from the INVADERS & other criminals.)
in point of fact, MANY of the south's BEST SNIPERS were freedmen (i.e., former slaves), as they HAD to be good shots/hunters;had they NOT been so successful as marksmen/hunters,LOTS of people would have gone hungry.
throughout the over TWO centuries of slavery, there were FEW slave revolts (or even attempted uprisings), despite what the REVISIONISTS claim. those claims are simply NOT based on FACTS!
free dixie,sw
are you trying to take "m.eSPINola's" place as our class CLOWN & village idiot????
free dixie,sw
Hmm, that might be interesting to reconcile with Virginia's laws governing the conduct of slaves and freedmen. Here is just a small sample from the last four decades of slavery:
Emancipation--1826--Statute--No black, age 21 or older, emancipated since May 1, 1806, to remain more than 1 year in the state without lawful permission.
Slave Code--1832--Statute--Revised slave code included provisions that prohibited enslaved blacks or free blacks from conducting religious services. In addition, white ministers were prohibited from preaching to blacks at night without the written permission of owners, or if their owners were in attendance. The code also noted that free blacks were no longer allowed to acquire ownership of any black other than their husband, wife or children. Free blacks were prohibited from keeping weapons. Enslaved blacks and free blacks were prohibited from selling or dispensing liquor at any public assembly. The writing or printing of any material that supported insurrection was forbidden. Free blacks were to be tried, convicted and punished in the same manner as enslaved blacks were prosecuted.
Patrols--1839--Statute--Patrols had the right to force open the doors of free blacks or of enslaved blacks when in search of firearms or other weapons.
Penal Code--1847--Statute--Enslaved blacks to be punished by whipping for the following crimes: menacing gestures or language to a white person, keeping or carrying weapons, rioting, unlawful assembly or making seditious speeches, preparing or administering medicine. Punishment not to exceed 39 lashes.
Free blacks--1847--Statute--Free blacks charged with a misdemeanor may be punished in the same way as an enslaved black for the same offense.
Unlawful assembly--1847--Statute--Enslaved blacks prohibited from gathering with other blacks for more than four hours at a time.
Runaways--1855--Statute--A trio of statues designed to prevent the escape of enslaved blacks. Included an inspection system for all boats leaving Virginia ports, and increased the penalties for helping blacks escape, including the requirement of a public whipping and a penitentiary sentence for free people and sale out of the state for an enslaved person. Act also increased the reward for arresting runaways.
Emancipation--1860--Constitution--Emancipated blacks would forfeit their freedom by remaining in the state more than 12 months. Furthermore, the general assembly would not emancipate any enslaved person, or the descendant of any such person.
Hmm, if they were enslaved, it sounds like some of the South's "best snipers" would have lost the right to carry weapons on pain of whipping. Seems like a strange case indeed, reconciling these laws with your opinions about the South.
And these "brave" souls did it secretly - sure a sign that they realized what they were doing was wrong.
you REALLY should do your OWN research on the period, from original sources.
then you'd learn something worthwhile, rather than believing what OTHERS say the facts were.
free dixie,sw
The FFV were passing laws making it a crime for enslaved blacks to hold weapons, meet together, or cast a sideways glance at a white person, and then they went home and handed out guns to their slaves to go hunt pheasants together for the plantation picnic.
Like I said, entertainment value. At least you didn't claim I made up these laws and they don't really exist, which is what I expected.
Of course there is no "debate" with stand just an opportunity to embarass the other DSs with his whackiness.
Even your backing off does not get to the truth. The federal government was founded by the American People gathered in states as an administrative convenience. States were not permitted to ratify through their lawmaking procedures.
Only the American People had the authority to found governments.
Just some more "phoney" laws passed for NO good reason I guess. Lol It is a riot to read what this guy posts. Is this the best the Slaver Defense Committee can do?
whether the modern (1/2-educated) folks WANT to believe it or not.
fwiw, i've been researching WBTS topics for about 3 decades. i know "a good little bit" about the period.
the armed slaves hunted for DAILY FOOD for the farms/plantations. it is SILLY to talk about "plantation picnics".
i believe you're smarter than that (unlike some here!).
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
as i asked earlier, are you trying to become the laughingstock of FR & replace your cohort, "m.eSPINola" as the class clown???
as for "backing off", i did NOT. i'm just tired of arguing with a DUNCE.
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
about 95% of the posts by the members of the "DAMNyankee coven" can be divided into"
a. STUPID comments & DUMB off-point cartoons,
b. posts that are IGNORANT of the historical facts (like the DY who stoutly believes that COL John S. Mosby COMMANDED the "Army of the Potomac"!),
c. the REVISIONISTS, who believe that EVERYTHING was about slavery,
d. the KNOWING liars,
e.and those "poor souls" who contribute NOTHING to the forum except personal (ad. hominum) attacks on the southerners on the forum.
less N-S, they are PITIFUL, imVho.
free dixie,sw
Say, did you ever contact Dr. Lubar at the Smithsonian?
Southern born and bred my boy. I just invaded the North 40 yrs ago.
You haven't argued at all merely posted gibberish of varying degrees of lunacy.
What he have been treated to many times before is the Gianni theory of lame-ass analysis. The facts are laid out in the message. Because the southern leaders chose war we will never know if Lincoln was lying or if he was telling the truth.
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